# Sarah Palin may leave Republican Party. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 30, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291 "2013-06-30T21:39:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/81 "2013-07-03T05:20:22Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > You really, _really_, believe that Democrats **fear** her? > > Really? Yep. And, like it or not, I am right! You are aware I was born in '60, right? My observation is from my observation. The left also hated/feared Reagan. They pounded on him and his points of view. And look what happened. The left fears Palin. The end. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/82 "2013-07-03T05:44:39Z")
Well sure. Both have/had dementia, and a lot of people seem to think their crazy rants are gospel. That’s pretty scary. What is puzzling though, is why right wingers seem to take joy in that. I know you guys fear Hillary and her impending presidency. That doesn’t make me happy, I think you guys should like her. Fearing her just leads to idiocy by morons in Congress ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/83 "2013-07-03T06:03:00Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > What is puzzling though **STOP!** Irrelevant. 4+4 years of Reagan proves my point. If you are older than I and can articulate your point I’ll listen. Otherwise it’s irrelevant. For many years the left attacked Reagan as an idiot, moron, etc.. Instead of arguing positions they argued intelligence. Didn’t work, did it? ---
**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/84 "2013-07-03T07:23:55Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > **STOP!** > > Irrelevant. > 4+4 years of Reagan proves my point. > > If you are older than I and can articulate your point I’ll listen. Otherwise it’s irrelevant. > > For many years the left attacked Reagan as an idiot, moron, etc.. Instead of arguing positions they argued intelligence. Didn’t work, did it? When it comes to [comparing contemporary politicians to past presidents](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=623924), I think it is **your opinion** that is irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/85 "2013-07-03T07:32:21Z")
What’s hilarious is seeing **pkbites** comparing, apparently in earnest seriousness, Sarah Palin to Ronald Reagan. Here’s the honest truth: _no one_ is afraid of Sarah Palin. If you really think she could be the “next Reagan,” all I can say is that I feel sorry for you. Anyway, I for one heartily support Palin forming a new political party and running for POTUS. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/86 "2013-07-03T08:23:23Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > What’s hilarious is seeing **pkbites** comparing, apparently in earnest seriousness, Sarah Palin to Ronald Reagan. At no time did I compare Sarah Palin to Reagan. I compared the lefts fear, hatred, and insuts of her to the lefts fear, hatred, and insults of Reagan before he was elected (and re-elected) President. Correct? Correct? Can you admit that’s all I did? Or do you lack honor? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/87 "2013-07-03T08:33:52Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > At no time did I compare Sarah Palin to Reagan. > > I compared the lefts fear, hatred, and insuts of her to the lefts fear, hatred, and insults of Reagan before he was elected (and re-elected) President. > > Correct? > > Correct? > > Can you admit that’s all I did? > > Or do you lack honor? Honor or no, maybe he has intelligence. Since you in fact did clearly compare Palin to Reagan. The left doesn’t fear Palin, they fear that people on the right are stupid enough to elect her. She’s just a dumb victim of the misinformation and lies that have fished in the right lately. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/88 "2013-07-03T09:20:21Z")
Dumb beneficiary is probably a more apt descriptor. As Reagan was a beneficiary of the Soviet Union running out of metaphorical economic steam when it did. ---
**Author:** ![Ken001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@Ken001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ken001)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/89 "2013-07-03T09:52:31Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Why is she a witch?😕 Coz she’s made of…wood? Build a bridge outta her! ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/90 "2013-07-03T13:04:38Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > \*\* > 4+4 years of Reagan proves my point. What IS your point anyway? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/91 "2013-07-03T14:24:21Z")
PK, I am your senior by approximately 5 yrs. Therefore, it is I who am correct! Can you show me any recent polling, no matter how skewed, that shows Palin as even any kind of _contender_ for national office? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/92 "2013-07-03T14:39:56Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Apparently [she had powerful supporters](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governorship_of_Sarah_Palin). > [@](#): > > In 2006, Sarah Palin was elected governor of Alaska. Running on a clean-government platform, Palin defeated incumbent Governor Frank Murkowski in the Republican gubernatorial primary election in August.[1] She then went on to win the general election in November, defeating former Governor Tony Knowles 48.3% to 40.9%.[2] Her running mate was State Senator Sean Parnell. > > During the Republican gubernatorial primary campaign, Palin was endorsed by former Alaska Governor Walter Hickel,[3] and groups such as the Alaska Correctional Officers Association and Alaska Right to Life.[4] Later, in the general election for governor, she was supported by Governor Frank Murkowski.[5] Republican U.S. Senator Ted Stevens made a last-moment endorsement, filming a television commercial with Palin for the gubernatorial campaign.[6] > > During her campaign for governor, Palin declared that education, public safety, and transportation would be the three cornerstones of her administration.[7] She won the race despite spending less than her Democratic opponent.[2] > > Palin became Alaska’s first female governor and, at 42, the youngest in state history. She is the first Alaskan governor born after Alaska achieved U.S. statehood and the first governor not inaugurated in Juneau; she chose to have the ceremony in Fairbanks instead. She took office on December 4, 2006, and maintained a high approval rating throughout her term; While those are the facts, they conveniently leave out a few details. Frank Murkowski was one of Alaska’s senators, who decided to leave the senate after a lackluster career. He spent twenty plus years there and never introduced a significant piece of legislation. He decided to return to Alaska, a place that, after so long in WDC, was as familiar to him as, say, Neptune, and run for governor because hey, it was owed to him. Apparently my friends and neighbors thought so too, and he was elected. Within the next four years his popularity plummeted to the point where he was ranked 49th out of 50 state governors. Along the way, he drafted Palin to work on the oil and gas commission, where she blew the whistle on some shady operations and resigned (her first in a string). It was also hard work, where you had to read and stuff. This proved very popular with citizens tired of Murkowski’s self-entitlement mentality. Republicans saw disaster looming in the next election, with Dems licking their lips at the prospect. In steps Palin, who the Murkowski campaign sneered at as an upstart. For some reason, Tony Knowles, a two-term former governor and former mayor of Anchorage, decided to run again. His popularity had waned, known to everyone but him, apparently, and while he had name recognition, he was not a strong choice. Palin won the primary, and the look on Murkowski’s face on election night can only be described as stunned disbelief that this nitwit was able to defeat him; out of touch 'til the end. Ted Stevens rightly disliked and mistrusted Palin and refused to endorse her throughout her campaign, but finally gave in to party pressure very late in the game. Like Murkowski before her, she turned out to be a princess. But worse, she was unwilling to do the work necessary for good governorship, and serious doubts about her ability to serve the people of Alaska were being raised from both sides. We’ll never know, but there was a better than even chance that she would have been a one-term governor. She is now pretty much universally despised in her home state, other than by the usual die-hards. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/93 "2013-07-03T15:27:24Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > The left also hated/feared Reagan. They pounded on him and his points of view. Governor, you’re no Ronald Reagan. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/94 "2013-07-03T15:28:55Z")
> [@Ken001](#): > > Coz she’s made of…wood? Above the neck, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/95 "2013-07-03T16:33:45Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > At no time did I compare Sarah Palin to Reagan. You certainly did. > [@](#): > > I compared the lefts fear, hatred, and insuts of her to the lefts fear, hatred, and insults of Reagan before he was elected (and re-elected) President. Which is comparing Palin to Reagan. Do you really not see that? > [@](#): > > Correct? Incorrect > [@](#): > > Correct? Incorrect > [@](#): > > Can you admit that’s all I did? You compared Palin to Reagan. More than once, now. > [@](#): > > Or do you lack honor? I suggest it might help you to take a long look at yourself in the mirror. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/96 "2013-07-03T16:54:36Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > You really, _really_, believe that Democrats **fear** her? I feared her in the White House the way I would fear a toddler holding an Uzi - the capacity for untold death and destruction through ignorance and ineptitude would have been enormous. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/97 "2013-07-03T16:56:20Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I feared her in the White House the way I would fear a toddler holding an Uzi - the capacity for untold death and destruction through ignorance and ineptitude would have been enormous. Bingo. I didn’t fear her in the way that one would fear a serial killer coming to break into my house and kill me. (I’m pretty sure she would just pay someone else to do that if circumstances warranted.) I feared the potential effects on the nation of her coming into a position of power. ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/98 "2013-07-03T17:07:12Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > …Like Murkowski before her, she turned out to be a princess. But worse, she was unwilling to do the work necessary for good governorship, and serious doubts about her ability to serve the people of Alaska were being raised from both sides. We’ll never know, but there was a better than even chance that she would have been a one-term governor. She is now pretty much universally despised in her home state, other than by the usual die-hards. I always figured she had plenty of time to prepare herself for a career in national politics, if that’s what she wanted. But she didn’t want to do the work. She has only ever wanted to be rich and famous and to get on TV a lot. She’s not stupid but she is lazy and unmotivated and is a world-class narcissist. If you want to tell her she’s wonderful, she’ll happily agree, but if she has to move outside her bubble of family and friends and supporters and hear what other people think of her and her politics, then she can’t handle it. She made the McCain campaign think she was more than she really was, and she got away with it until it was too late for the campaign to do anything about it, except to try to cram lots of talking points into her head for her TV appearances. I think she herself deserves more of the blame than the McCain campaign for her own selection, because instead of thinking of the good of the McCain campaign (not to mention the good of the GOP and the country), she was thinking only of her own success. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/99 "2013-07-03T17:23:15Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I feared her in the White House the way I would fear a toddler holding an Uzi - the capacity for untold death and destruction through ignorance and ineptitude would have been enormous. I was afraid then. Now, not so much, I’m pretty sure she’s unelectable to national office ('course, I thought that about Nixon, too). ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291/100 "2013-07-03T18:05:15Z")
Palin was nothing more than the Vice Presidential candidate in a year that was highly improbable that her party would win. A vice President only has 'minute power in the case of a tie during a Senate vote. And she had no more chance of becoming VP in '08 than Geraldine Ferraro did in '84. Yet the left is absolutely terrified of her. As evidenced by the multitude of threads and posts about her. If Sarah Palin is such a nonentity, why the obsession over her and everything she does? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-may-leave-republican-party/662291.md?page=6)