# Sarah Palin: Obama "pussyfooting" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 4, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752 "2011-05-04T21:21:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/61 "2011-05-05T02:48:33Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Yes, the guy whose administration ACTUALLY FUCKING KILLED BIN LADEN by authorizing a raid so fucking daring and badass Chuck Norris would’ve taken a pass… Underlining mine. This is the essence of the SEALs. As someone else said in another thread, the SEALs are like all the Chuck Norris jokes – only they’re true. Chuck Norris plays badass characters. SEALs _really are_ badasses. Sarah Palin has a bad ass. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/62 "2011-05-05T02:53:19Z")
Ah, Palin the Cunt strikes again. News flash, America, SHE IS FUCKING DUMB! As usual, Palin makes up words or uses ones she is unfamiliar with. Sending Navy SEALs in helicopters to assassinate the number one enemy of the world is not pussyfooting, you bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/63 "2011-05-05T03:08:12Z")
Ehh, well, she’s not the only one. Many conservative blogs I’ve seen have been saying the same. ETA: I believe that the point that “they’re calling him cowardly even though he sent the order” is why that one conspiracy theory about someone “overriding” Obama on this is so popular in some circles. Or else it’s reconciled by saying it was “easy” to do, and that the SEALs did all the actual hard work. So that objection IS addressed, in a sense. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/64 "2011-05-05T03:10:17Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > You attacked me because you can’t read, you idiot. Nope. Just asked for a cite. You’re a douchebag. A douchebag who attacked someone who you knew was on your side, but just didn’t get your joke. ETA: A douchebag who’s unaware of Poe’s Law, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/65 "2011-05-05T03:12:24Z")
n/m you’re too stupid to fight with. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/66 "2011-05-05T03:13:25Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > A cite for what, exactly? An assertion I didn’t make? Now you’re being stupid, in addition to your previous douchebaggery. Good for you! All this would have just ended if you’d posted “dude, that was a joke” instead of calling me names. What a fucking retarded asshole you are. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/67 "2011-05-05T03:25:30Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Best Palin rant in a while. > > Of course she’s not alone: Beck, Limbaugh, and all of the other usual fuckheads are criticizing it. The crazy thing is that I think some people who are ordinarily fans may actually be seeing this as “uh… yeah, but he killed bin Laden”. I’ve no delusions the moment of clarity will last, but it’s nice to see the masses of asses not jumping up and down echoing them for once. As I said in another thread, my husband HATES Obama and just about everything Obama stands for and all his policies. And he’s walking around with a big grin on his face because of this, and he enjoyed the captioned pics that I sent him from that other thread. I find it admirable that Obama was able to keep this mission quiet until it was completed, because sometimes that’s a matter of life and death for those involved. Fact is, I was impressed by the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/68 "2011-05-05T03:29:20Z")
“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.” - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02 > [@John\_Mace](#): > > You know that’s a made up quote, don’t you? Bush never said that about ObL, but it is widely thought that he did. Please cite some debunking of this quote. It’s very widely attributed to him. “I am truly not that concerned about him.” - G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden’s whereabouts, 3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02) [Here’s a link to the White House transcript of the briefing on the above quote:[http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html](http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html)] “Who knows if he’s hiding in some cave or not. We haven’t heard from him in a long time. The idea of focusing on one person really indicates to me people don’t understand the scope of the mission. Terror is bigger than one person. He’s just a person who’s been marginalized. … I don’t know where he is. I really just don’t spend that much time on him, to be honest with you.” [http://thinkprogress.org/2011/05/02/bush-bin-laden/](http://thinkprogress.org/2011/05/02/bush-bin-laden/) Watch the video in the link. He makes clear, and _nearly says_, that he does not care about bin Laden. Here’s Fred Barnes attesting to Bush saying that bin Laden was not a top priority: https://www.youtube.com/embed/U5Q0Lf-iLXs?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque So, how do you know it’s false? It’s certainly quite consistent with a number of sourced statements by Bush regarding bin Laden. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/69 "2011-05-05T03:33:36Z")
> [@](#): > > …What a fucking retarded asshole you are Suppose you really did have a retarded asshole. Could that be fixed with surgery, and is it worse than a spastic colon? If you had a retarded asshole and irritable bowel syndrome, which poster would you most resemble? ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/70 "2011-05-05T03:35:47Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Easy. Bush, in his divine wisdom, initiated the protocols and Obama merely implemented them. > > There is some truth to that, though. Too many people view the office of the President as the person itself - it’s not. The policies of one administration to the next actually don’t change that much in situations like this. We can’t have the Executive Branch, one third of the government, entirely re-invent itself every four years. That would be chaos. > > My personal view is that it’s not Bush or Obama that got Bin Laden, the credit needs to go to the CIA and the Pentagon. And Seal Team Six of course. Tru dat. > [@Ludovic](#): > > Okay, I guess you got nuthin. I got sumthin more than you, tho. ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f6c823/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lady)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/71 "2011-05-05T04:11:52Z")
It doesn’t matter if the photos get released or not, at least as far as convincing anyone that he is dead. After being shot in the head, how much do you think the pics will look like him? Those who don’t want to believe it will not be convinced, and the argument will then be about whether or not the photos were doctored. Releasing them could have terrible ramifications for us in the Arab world. Obama is right not to do it. But I’m sure they’ll be leaked eventually. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/72 "2011-05-05T04:23:27Z")
‘Pussy foot’, is that the same as ‘camel toe’? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/73 "2011-05-05T04:55:58Z")
> [@pikey\_pete](#): > > I just wish Obama would authorize the SEALs to take Palin out. How can we get some terrorism pinned on her? I’m sure she would like to be taken out by a SEAL and pinned. Eww. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/74 "2011-05-05T05:08:30Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > You’re right. Instead, six months after 9/11 our boy Dubya was busy trying to make everyone forget Osama so he could go after Saddam. That’s why he said: > > So you’re right, those weren’t his exact words. But it’s god damned close enough. > > -Joe It doesn’t appear to be a deliberate misquote, but it isn’t an exact quote. I think the exact quote is more revealing of Bush’s abilities and intentions. It shows him to be a man who doesn’t pay close attention who thinks that details are beneath him. I note that Jimmy Carter never said the country was in a malaise and Al Gore never claimed to have invented the internet. This is what I’m talking when I complain that the press and certain posters excuse fair comments about the claims of conservatives and yet don’t go around correcting grosser misstatements when liberals are deliberately misquoted to make them look foolish. It would be nice if the supposedly impartial press and supposedly even-handed posters put as much effort into correcting misstatements about both sides. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/75 "2011-05-05T05:13:44Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > There is some truth to that, though. Too many people view the office of the President as the person itself - it’s not. The policies of one administration to the next actually don’t change that much in situations like this. We can’t have the Executive Branch, one third of the government, entirely re-invent itself every four years. That would be chaos. > > My personal view is that it’s not Bush or Obama that got Bin Laden, the credit needs to go to the CIA and the Pentagon. And Seal Team Six of course. No doubt the Man in the Arena deserves the lion’s share of the credit, but Obama had some tough choices to make above and beyond the operational concerns. If bin Laden had been found in the UK the decisions over how to proceed would have been no brainers, but bin Laden was smack in the middle of a sometimes trustworthy, sometimes less-than-trustworthy ostensible ally, in a heavily populated area, with military installations close by. He could have made the decison to alert Pakisani officials to the raid and risked someone in the command structure leaking the info, or trusted Pakistan to conduct the raid themselves and risked someone in the command structure leaking the info, or order the raid without alerting anyone and risk civilian casualites/getting shot down by the Pakistani military/getting captured or shot by the Pakistani military, etc. There were dozens of ways this could have gone wrong and only a few that it could go right, and had it gone wrong it would have been Obama’s Iran rescue fiasco and bay of Pigs all wrapped in one. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/76 "2011-05-05T05:47:38Z")
More on the raid from CIA Director Panetta: > [@](#): > > Panetta wanted to get those aides’ opinions on the potential bin Laden mission, and he quickly found a lack of unanimity among his team. Some of the aides had been involved in the Carter Administration’s effort to go after the hostages held by the Iranians 30 years ago; others had been involved in the ill-fated “Black Hawk Down” raid against Somali warlords in 1993. “What if you go down and you’re in a firefight and the Pakistanis show up and start firing?” Panetta says some worried. “How do you fight your way out?” > > But Panetta concluded that the evidence was strong enough to risk the raid, despite the fact that his aides were only 60%-80% confident that bin Laden was there, and decided to make his case to the President. At the key Thursday meeting in which President Obama heard the arguments from his top aides on whether or not to go into Pakistan to kill or capture bin Laden, Panetta admitted that the evidence of bin Laden’s presence at the compound was circumstantial. But “when you put it all together,” Panetta says he told the room, “we have the best evidence since [the 2001 battle of] Tora Bora [where bin Laden was last seen], and that then makes it clear that we have an obligation to act.” > > Obama decided that Panetta’s arguments trumped two other options: striking the compound remotely or waiting until more evidence was available to prove bin Laden was there. “If I thought delaying this could in fact produce better intelligence, that would be one thing,” Panetta says he argued, “but because of the nature of the security at the compound, we’re probably at a point where we’ve got the best intelligence we can get.” [CIA Chief: Pakistan Would Have Jeopardized bin Laden Raid](http://swampland.time.com/2011/05/03/cia-chief-breaks-silence-u-s-ruled-out-involving-pakistan-in-bin-laden-raid-early-on/) ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/77 "2011-05-05T08:00:42Z")
It would have been awesome if Obama had told his staff, “Sometimes, you gotta roll the hard six.” ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/78 "2011-05-05T08:17:45Z")
Let’s face it, this woman could not beat Katie Couric in an interview. She found undergraduate challenging. And, but for the American people she would now be a heartbeat away from the presidency. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/79 "2011-05-05T09:35:46Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I’m sure she would like to be taken out by a SEAL and pinned. Eww. Maybe she’s angry because she thinks Obama sent in some baby harp seals and she couldn’t join the club(bing) ? ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752/80 "2011-05-05T10:52:13Z")
A recent thread in GQ taught me that Sarah Palin’s name can be misread as “Sinus Pain”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-obama-pussyfooting/580752.md?page=5)