# Sarah Palin proven right! Government tricks beautiful young mom; imposes 1st Death Panel Verdict **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 12, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888 "2010-04-12T22:18:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/1 "2010-04-12T22:18:13Z")
[Here’s an example](http://cbs4.com/local/Diana.Smith.Woman.2.1623788.html) of the kind of loving, benevolent care we are in for once the government gains control of our health care. Absolutely disgusting and worse than any critique **elucidator** has levelled at any evil insurance company at its very worst. I don’t have the time at the moment, nor the ability to sufficiently contain my anger and disgust, to go into this further but it speaks for itself anyway. This is exactly the kind of shit that people know is gonna happen (only with a surprise portion of trickery) when the government gains control of our health care, and it’s precisely why Sarah Palin’s death panel warnings have resonated so strongly among the nation’s citizenry. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/2 "2010-04-12T22:20:53Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > [Here’s an example](http://cbs4.com/local/Diana.Smith.Woman.2.1623788.html) of the kind of loving, benevolent care we are in for once the government gains control of our health care. > > Absolutely disgusting and worse than any critique **elucidator** has levelled at any evil insurance company at its very worst. > > I don’t have the time at the moment, nor the ability to sufficiently contain my anger and disgust, to go into this further but it speaks for itself anyway. > > This is exactly the kind of shit that people know is gonna happen (only with a surprise portion of trickery) when the government gains control of our health care, and it’s precisely why Sarah Palin’s death panel warnings have resonated so strongly among the nation’s citizenry. Are you really this stupid or are you Andy Kaufman? ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/3 "2010-04-12T22:24:22Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Are you really this stupid or are you Andy Kaufman? [I know I know! Pick me teacher I’m ever so smart!](http://www.richmolnar.com/Sounds/Martin%20-%20Pick%20me!.wav) ---
**Author:** ![Fiona\_Greenlee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e68b1a/32.png) [@Fiona\_Greenlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiona_Greenlee)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/4 "2010-04-12T22:26:20Z")
From your link > [@](#): > > But her hopes of receiving the transplant were dashed in March, when she says, the Social Security Administration contacted her –without her soliciting it – and told her that her three year-old son was entitled to receive Social Security disability payments. Even though she didn’t ask for it, she signed the form and received her son’s first check. So she received a document unsolicited and just signed/returned it without questioning it … and that’s _someone else’s_ fault? I thought that conservatives were all about the personal responsibility. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/5 "2010-04-12T22:28:01Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > This is exactly the kind of shit that people know is gonna happen (only with a surprise portion of trickery) when the government gains control of our health care, and it’s precisely why Sarah Palin’s death panel warnings have resonated so strongly among the nation’s citizenry. You must have the worst government in the West, the way you bang on about its devious incompetence. Glad the rest of the developed world has better governments than you guys! And how embarrassing for you. Happily this sort of shit doesn’t happen in countries with UHC. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/6 "2010-04-12T22:29:02Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > [Here’s an example](http://cbs4.com/local/Diana.Smith.Woman.2.1623788.html) of the kind of loving, benevolent care we are in for once the government gains control of our health care. It’s a good thing that under the new healthcare system she’ll be able to ditch the government plan and get private insurance, then. If she lives long enough, since the new system won’t take effect for several years. ---
**Author:** ![justrob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@justrob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justrob)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/7 "2010-04-12T22:30:25Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > This is exactly the kind of shit that people know is gonna happen (only with a surprise portion of trickery) when the government gains control of our health care, and it’s precisely why Sarah Palin’s death panel warnings have resonated so strongly among the nation’s citizenry. If we had UHC she would not be able to be dropped from coverage though would she? ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/8 "2010-04-12T22:34:39Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > You must have the worst government in the West, the way you bang on about its devious incompetence. Glad the rest of the developed world has better governments than you guys! And how embarrassing for you. > > Happily this sort of shit doesn’t happen in countries with UHC. Please try not to make fun of us. Some of us really badly want a complete overhaul of our health care industry. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/9 "2010-04-12T22:35:34Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I don’t have the time at the moment, nor the ability to sufficiently contain my anger and disgust, to go into this further but it speaks for itself anyway. How dumb are you? She got cut off because she started making too much money to stay on Medicaid. With true UHC, we wouldn’t have this sort of income-based means-testing. This sort of cruel stupidity is exactly the sort of thing that the current health-care reform is trying to fix. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/10 "2010-04-12T22:38:14Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > How dumb are you? > > She got cut off because she started making too much money to stay on Medicaid. With true UHC, we wouldn’t have this sort income-based means-testing. This sort of cruel stupidity is exactly the sort of thing that the current health-care reform is trying to fix. Yeah. This is rather, um, unusual logic by **Starving Artist** , but what else is new? If the article were given sans the OP’s commentary, I would have assumed it’s from a UHC supporter, not detractor. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/11 "2010-04-12T22:38:15Z")
If it didn’t happen so freakin’ often, I’d suspect that your account was hacked by the DNC. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/12 "2010-04-12T22:39:03Z")
Medicare is administered by the states, and will continue to be administered by the states even under the half-assed measures of the new law that hasn’t even taken effect yet. As best as I understand the situation, it would have happened even if the new law was in effect. Course then she could go out and buy subsidized health insurance from a company that was not allowed to deny her application. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/13 "2010-04-12T22:42:31Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > If it didn’t happen so freakin’ often, I’d suspect that your account was hacked by the DNC. As a moderator, can you tell me whether mock pittings are against the rules? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/14 "2010-04-12T22:43:23Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > How dumb are you? > > She got cut off because she started making too much money to stay on Medicaid. With true UHC, we wouldn’t have this sort of income-based means-testing. This sort of cruel stupidity is exactly the sort of thing that the current health-care reform is trying to fix. I see. So if we had full government health care to protect us from partial government health care, then the government would no longer be able to offer us benefits in order to disqualify us from getting health care? ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/15 "2010-04-12T22:46:12Z")
Shortly after I started on unemployment, the state threw in an extra $25 dollars a week. That extra $25 dollars a week put me $200 over the annual income limit for Medicaid. The thing is that Medicaid income limits are ridiculously low in the first place. But we don’t talk about the poor, we just wring our hands about how tax a millionaire has to pay. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/16 "2010-04-12T22:46:51Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So if we had full government health care to protect us from partial government health care, then the government would no longer be able to offer us benefits in order to disqualify us from getting health care? Duh … yes. If we had full universal health care then no one would ever get cut off because the government accidentally raised their income over some arbitrary threshold. What would you prefer? No Medicaid at all so she’d die more quickly? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/17 "2010-04-12T22:48:05Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I see. So if we had full government health care to protect us from partial government health care, then the government would no longer be able to offer us benefits in order to disqualify us from getting health care? Try this: Before you post, say what you wrote down out loud. If you find yourself shaking your head and exclaiming something along the lines of, “What the hell does _that_ mean?”, delete. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/18 "2010-04-12T22:51:45Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Try this: Before you post, say what you wrote down out loud. If you find yourself shaking your head and exclaiming something along the lines of, “What the hell does _that_ mean?”, delete. That would amount to banning him. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fake_Tales_of_San_Francisco)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/19 "2010-04-12T22:52:17Z")
Hold the phone, you actually think they devised a plan to kill her off by tricking her into receiving disability payments for her son, thereby making her ineligible for Medicaid insurance? For real? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/20 "2010-04-12T22:57:29Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I see. So if we had full government health care to protect us from partial government health care, then the government would no longer be able to offer us benefits in order to disqualify us from getting health care? Y’know, some drone in the (administered by the Feds) SSDI probably thought he was doing a good deed. “Son of a gun,” he said. “I can get this woman and her child some more income.” It’s an sign of how bad our current health care system is, not a warning for the one we _will_ have in the future, that he did not know about the fact that the extra income would cause Medicare (administered by the State of Florida) to cut her off. In fact, I would expect that the next iteration of health care reform will be designed to expressly solve this sort of issue; all people under retirement age will be covered. That could have happened this time if it were not for the likes of you. Do not come in here throwing about faux sympathy. This situation is not an indictment of us; it’s an indictment of you. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888.md?page=2)