# Sarah Palin proven right! Government tricks beautiful young mom; imposes 1st Death Panel Verdict **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 12, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888 "2010-04-12T22:18:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/261 "2010-04-14T13:00:41Z")
Here’s something to notice. If it’s true that she raised the money to pay for the surgery herself, then that’s income. And the amount of income it would have taken to cover this surgery would _surely_ put her over the medicaid eligibility limits. I don’t know what this means in terms of the moral of the story, I just thought it was worth pointing out. ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/262 "2010-04-14T13:24:15Z")
> [@CannyDan](#): > > Wait for it. He’s wracking his brain for another anecdote. He’ll be back with something making all his former stupidity shine like brilliance in comparison. Trust me. Ding! Ding! Ding! I win the thread!! > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Guys, guys, guys! You’re blowing this all out of proportion. In the first place, I didn’t get introduced to the subject by looking up an article in an encyclopedia. I came upon a collection of photos featuring full-on penetrative sex, some of which were taken from a…ahem…gynocological camera angle. This was followed the next day with, IIRC, four books on sex and reproduction that my father checked out of the library for me to read. Secondly, I can see that some of you took my description of the neighborhood being a junior league Playboy Mansion just a tad too seriously. And thirdly, despite my apparent sexual precocity and numerous experimentations, I never got properly and fully laid until I was 16. My guide in this delightful endeavor was a cute, highly oversexed and utterly delightful little heartbreaker of 20 who worked for my father at the time. These days, people like **Drain Bead** would be faunching at the bit to throw her in jail and brand her a “sex offender” for life, but paradoxically people weren’t so hysterical about youthful sex in those days and no one who was in the know thought anything about our relative ages. In fact, to further illustrate the mores of the time, Jerry Lee Lewis had legally married his 14-year-old cousin just seven or eight years earlier. It’s only been recently that anyone a day over 18 who has sex with anyone a day under 18 gets labeled a pervert… Sorry for the delay-- I’ve “had things to do”. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/263 "2010-04-14T13:30:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Really? Anybody got a bowl of warm water? May not even need one… ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/264 "2010-04-14T13:50:40Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Here’s something to notice. If it’s true that she raised the money to pay for the surgery herself, then that’s income. And the amount of income it would have taken to cover this surgery would _surely_ put her over the medicaid eligibility limits. > > I don’t know what this means in terms of the moral of the story, I just thought it was worth pointing out. I wonder if the IRS will keep an eye out to see if she declares it. At least she’ll have [About $100,000 - $250,000](http://www.acor.org/ped-onc/treatment/BMT/BMT.html) worth of medical expenses she can deduct. Holy fuck, did she really raise $100,000?! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/265 "2010-04-14T13:51:46Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > These days, people like **Drain Bead** would be faunching at the bit to throw her in jail and brand her a “sex offender” for life, but paradoxically people weren’t so hysterical about youthful sex in those days and no one who was in the know thought anything about our relative ages. So the guy whose _cause celebre_ is how liberals are making our kids impregnate and/or syphilize\* each other thinks people these days are “too hysterical about youthful sex”. Answer me this, sir: are you, or have you ever been, Stephen Colbert? \*if that’s not a word, by god, it oughtta be. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/266 "2010-04-14T14:19:21Z")
I think we’ve all missed the important question: Was **SA** at least polite when he was attempting to molest his fellow eight year olds? ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/267 "2010-04-14T14:27:33Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > So the guy whose _cause celebre_ is how liberals are making our kids impregnate and/or syphilize\* each other thinks people these days are “too hysterical about youthful sex”. It’s simple: Teenagers having sex with other: Horror of today caused by evil liberals Teenagers having sex with adults: Benefit of the 50s eliminated by evil liberals ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/268 "2010-04-14T14:30:48Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > This is really basic stuff. It’s hard to believe that here on the smartest message board on the entire internet it’s necessary to spell these things out. It is because you’ve outed yourself as a demented pervert. The latter being the new piece of information. It’s funny that you don’t even realise what you’ve done or how freakin’ disturbed you are. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/269 "2010-04-14T14:35:41Z")
Remember, **Starving Artist** -when your stories backfire as badly as your last three, just claim that they were satirical(or as in the case of your story of sex abuse, satyrical), and mock us for not having a sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/270 "2010-04-14T14:45:05Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > I wonder if the IRS will keep an eye out to see if she declares it. At least she’ll have [About $100,000 - $250,000](http://www.acor.org/ped-onc/treatment/BMT/BMT.html) worth of medical expenses she can deduct. > > Holy fuck, did she really raise $100,000?! Some people make really good spaghetti. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/271 "2010-04-14T14:46:39Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > Holy fuck, did she really raise $100,000?! You forgit, she’s purty! ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/272 "2010-04-14T14:53:05Z")
> [@descamisado](#): > > You forgit, she’s purty! “Which cheap bastard gave you 50 cents?” “All of them!” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/273 "2010-04-14T14:53:17Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Remember, **Starving Artist** -when your stories backfire as badly as your last three, just claim that they were satirical(or as in the case of your story of sex abuse, satyrical), and mock us for not having a sense of humor. Why not? Happens all the time in GD. Gets scorned every time, though. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/274 "2010-04-14T14:53:35Z")
Um, aren’t these money raising things for medical costs usually put into a trust, so as not to tempt parents of sick children, for instance, from using it for other things? And also, for exactly the reason you’ve pointed out, to avoid tax problems etc. I think they are where I live, anyway. **42fish** nailed it, I believe: > [@](#): > > Teenagers having sex with other: Horror of today caused by evil liberals > > Teenagers having sex with adults: Benefit of the 50s eliminated by evil liberals I simply cannot wait to hear how he spins this one. I just love his creativity. ---
**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/275 "2010-04-14T14:59:16Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Insurance companies may be slimy bastards but they are not incompetent. Ah yes. The old “private corporations are more competent than the guvmint” argument. Simply not true. See, with private corporations you get both slimy bastards AND incompetence. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/276 "2010-04-14T15:10:34Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Um, aren’t these money raising things for medical costs usually put into a trust, so as not to tempt parents of sick children, for instance, from using it for other things? And also, for exactly the reason you’ve pointed out, to avoid tax problems etc. I think they are where I live, anyway. I actually have no idea how it works, and up until recently had no idea it even occurred. But based on my limited knowledge of US taxation, wouldn’t this all still be counted along the lines as a gift or winnings? If people gave her a car she’d be taxed on the value. If they forgave a loan she’d taxed. Seriously, if they give her $100,000 worth of medical care, is that taxable? (I’m going to ask Turbotax and see what it says) Does anyone know the answer to this? ---
**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/277 "2010-04-14T15:27:45Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > These days, people like **Drain Bead** would be \*\*faunching \*\*at the bit to throw her in jail and brand her a “sex offender” for life… (bolding mine)I’m sorry, but I can’t let this go. Where the fuck did you get the word “faunch” and do you use it IRL? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/278 "2010-04-14T15:36:39Z")
> [@stretch](#): > > (bolding mine)I’m sorry, but I can’t let this go. Where the fuck did you get the word “faunch” and do you use it IRL? Faunch=angry excitement, and I think _he_ thought it would fit as a substitute for “chomping”. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/279 "2010-04-14T15:39:02Z")
Now, where did that little scamp get off to? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888/280 "2010-04-14T15:40:13Z")
> [@stretch](#): > > (bolding mine)I’m sorry, but I can’t let this go. Where the fuck did you get the word “faunch” and do you use it IRL? When you make your own reality in your head, you get to make words too! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-proven-right-government-tricks-beautiful-young-mom-imposes-1st-death-panel-verdict/535888.md?page=15)