# Sarah Palin supports Hamas **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417 "2008-10-04T05:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Prelude\_to\_Fascination](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Prelude\_to\_Fascination](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prelude_to_Fascination)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/181 "2008-10-06T16:26:29Z")
While it’s not November 4 yet, I’m less cautious, and more optimistic than I was before, because no matter what the Hawk-ey Mom says, I believe Obama’s got it. And believe it or not, Karl Rove seems to agree! (Apologies if this info has been posted in another thread) [http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24456330-5013451,00.html](http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24456330-5013451,00.html) > [@](#): > > Mr Rove projected that if the election had been held at the weekend, Senator Obama would have won at least 273 electoral votes - three more than needed for victory - to Senator McCain’s 163 votes, with 102 votes remaining as toss-ups. I’m still scared, but now I’m starting to laugh at Palin’s idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/182 "2008-10-06T16:36:21Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I’m a tax lawyer. And my views are not really all that controversial (I’d bet at least 75% of the other lawyers I work with would not think anything I’ve said here on the Dope is controversial. It seems to me that asking a tax lawyer for his opinion on the economy is akin to asking a bank robber to consult on a bank’s security system. Both may give you their opinion, but you have to consider that they might not have the public’s best interest in mind. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/183 "2008-10-06T16:52:33Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Ok I will post a link to my firm’s standard billing rate chart and executed engagement letters, gimme a sec. :rolleyes: The funny thing about this is you think posting the billing rate chart of some random lawfirm would help. Get it through your thick skull we don’t give a shit what you do IRL or how much you make. Here, your ideas must live or die on their own merits. As for your claim of being a lawyer I would not be supriserd if it is true. However I suspect you are more of a cubicle wonk than a partner. Gimme a sec I will post a picture of my crystal ball… > [@Rand](#): > > Actually, bare assertion is fine on the SDMB when McCain is the target, so I thought I would use it too. I know if I or many other liberal posters saw a claim that McCain rapes puppys the first thing I would post is “Cite?”. And if the response was “I know about puppy rapists becase I have raped alot of puppys” the person would be pilloried. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/184 "2008-10-06T17:01:30Z")
Hey, **RR**! You know what John Galt would do? He would turn his back on the Boards and deny us his brilliance and creativity, sure in the certainty that without his input, it would come crashing down around the ears of us, the unworthy. That’s what he’d do! Just sayin’, is all. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/185 "2008-10-06T17:04:30Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Jack Batty > > Oh, well, as long as you didn’t intend to sound like a pompous dick-hole while you were sounding like a pompous dick-hole, that makes all the difference. > > Thanks, I’m glad you see it my way. Just so I can keep up … in this post, are you still not intending to sound like a pompous dick-hole? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/186 "2008-10-06T17:05:49Z")
On a note of circumstantial irony, at this moment on CNN, the CEO of the corpse of Lehman Bros. is explaining to Henry Waxman why he deserved a couple hundred milllion dollars for his brilliance and creativity. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/187 "2008-10-06T17:07:25Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > The funny thing about this is you think posting the billing rate chart of some random lawfirm would help. Get it through your thick skull we don’t give a shit what you do IRL or how much you make. Here, your ideas must live or die on their own merits. > > As for your claim of being a lawyer I would not be supriserd if it is true. However I suspect you are more of a cubicle wonk than a partner. Gimme a sec I will post a picture of my crystal ball… > > I know if I or many other liberal posters saw a claim that McCain rapes puppys the first thing I would post is “Cite?”. And if the response was “I know about puppy rapists becase I have raped alot of puppys” the person would be pilloried. Still waiting for that apology for lying about me. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/188 "2008-10-06T17:26:35Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Still waiting for that apology for lying about me. Try holding your breath, if you hold it untill I apologize we all win. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/189 "2008-10-06T17:30:11Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Try holding your breath, if you hold it untill I apologize we all win. I hope everyone takes note that you are an unrepentant liar and treats you accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/190 "2008-10-06T17:39:26Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Still waiting for that apology for lying about me. He didn’t lie. You “title dropped” shortly after you bragged how valuable you are to society and how much your firm collects for your services. All of these things were meant to show us how much your opinion means. Now stop being disingenuous. I would guess you drive a Porche too, to compensate for your remarkably appropriate small dick. Or you at least like to tell people you drive a Porche, because in your mind, people will think you’re a more valuable person than they are because you drive a bitchin’ car. Would you also like to tell us how much your mother loves you and how absol-fucking-lutely smokin’ your wife is? In your mind are these things relevant to the things you post here too? Although, if by continually focusing on **askeptic** it makes you feel like you’re actually “winning” the debate (as it takes the attention off of the actual discussion at hand), by all means, continue stroking yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/191 "2008-10-06T17:41:38Z")
By my calculations, Rand Rover now owes his company more than $657 due to his wasting valuable work time posting on this board. Luckily, since I’m a dirty hippie, I don’t owe anybody anything. Go me! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/192 "2008-10-06T17:52:11Z")
Anybody else get an Ayn Rand dating service ad on their screen? Will somebody go check it out, report back? I’d do it, but I got an anti-cooty firewall up, and its a hassle to disable. And, OK, I’m afraid to. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/193 "2008-10-06T17:55:15Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > He didn’t lie. You “title dropped” shortly after you bragged how valuable you are to society and how much your firm collects for your services. All of these things were meant to show us how much your opinion means. Now stop being disingenuous. Yep, just to help out, #10: > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > 😛 OK dude. Lots of people pay my firm over $500 an hour for my opinion on U.S. federal income tax matters, so your statement is demonstrably incorrect. That is not “evidence”, or a “cite”. It’s simply a claim you made, with absolutely nothing to back up. We have no reason to take you seriously, and considering your frightful stupidity and ignorance, I don’t see why we should. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/194 "2008-10-06T18:23:11Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Yep, just to help out, #10: > > That is not “evidence”, or a “cite”. It’s simply a claim you made, with absolutely nothing to back up. We have no reason to take you seriously, and considering your frightful stupidity and ignorance, I don’t see why we should. Hey Guin care to provide some examples of my stupidity or ignorance? Please label each example accordingly. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/195 "2008-10-06T20:50:05Z")
Seriously **Rand Rover** , if you are indeed a lawyer and passed the Bar with the sorry state of rhetorical debating skills displayed before us my hat goes off to you. However, you should ask for your tuition back. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/196 "2008-10-06T21:14:38Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Seriously **Rand Rover** , if you are indeed a lawyer and passed the Bar with the sorry state of rhetorical debating skills displayed before us my hat goes off to you. However, you should ask for your tuition back. Thanks for you input. I’m usually quite busy at work so I don’t have the time or mental energy to always explain myself with the degree of care and particularity that would be necessary for the average SDMB reader to understand. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/197 "2008-10-06T21:49:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Thanks for you input. I’m usually quite busy at work so I don’t have the time or mental energy to always explain myself with the degree of care and particularity that would be necessary for the average SDMB reader to understand. Then why don’t you move on to a message board more in-line with your intellect and vocabulary? Or, don’t feel you have to “dumb it down” on our behalf. We do have access to dictionaries and calendars and maps and stuff. Plus, we’ve seen a lot of small-cocked blowhards show their trolling heads around here over the years to know when we’re dealing with a stunted juvenile mind. And most of them have displayed more originality than anything you’ve displayed recently, so I’d sit back, if I were you, and maybe figure out a better method of trolling. At least make your rap something more interesting. Like the support for circumcision of micro penises while driving SUVs and shitting on gay babies. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/198 "2008-10-06T22:09:34Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > … care to provide some examples of my stupidity or ignorance? [Here you go.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=3688814) ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/199 "2008-10-06T22:14:32Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Then why don’t you move on to a message board more in-line with your intellect and vocabulary? > > Or, don’t feel you have to “dumb it down” on our behalf. We do have access to dictionaries and calendars and maps and stuff. > > Plus, we’ve seen a lot of small-cocked blowhards show their trolling heads around here over the years to know when we’re dealing with a stunted juvenile mind. And most of them have displayed more originality than anything you’ve displayed recently, so I’d sit back, if I were you, and maybe figure out a better method of trolling. At least make your rap something more interesting. Like the support for circumcision of micro penises while driving SUVs and shitting on gay babies. Wow. It really is astonishing how I get this reaction from just espousing the basic tenets of Objectivism. For anyone not familiar with those ideas, go read wikipedia and see what made this guy go off and what has made others suggest that I leave and that I would be better off dead. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/200 "2008-10-06T22:19:12Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I’m usually quite busy at work so I don’t have the time or mental energy to always explain myself with the degree of care and particularity that would be necessary for the average SDMB reader to understand. Let’s hope it remains slow in the mail-room so you can keep entertaining us with your scintillating wit and verbosity! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417.md?page=11)