# Sarah Palin supports Hamas **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417 "2008-10-04T05:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/101 "2008-10-05T14:10:19Z")
> [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](#): > > I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that you would think that either. Huh? Was this directed at me, and if so, what do you mean? ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/102 "2008-10-05T14:41:37Z")
You, in the sense that anyone could find Palin’s astonishment at not being able to talk about whatever she wanted to and her irritation in having to answer direct questions about statements she herself made, _during an interview_, “quite interesting”. Some more interesting stuff: [Video link.](http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/30/palins-news/) ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/103 "2008-10-05T15:23:39Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Yeah, I mean, really. I thought such BASIC knowledge was a pre-req for posting here. I mean, I’m an IDIOT and I knew that one. > > You really aren’t worth what you are billing at, **Rand** , and I hope you reflect on that as you pad your timesheet next week. You are a fucking idiot. You are correct that it is BASIC knowlege, and it is obvious you know nothing beyond that. Also, thanks for the suggestion that I pad my bills. That is consistent with the thought of many of the more loser variety of poor people that rich people got that way by cheating. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/104 "2008-10-05T15:37:30Z")
Kind of like the tendency toward self-aggrandizment that is typical of Rand fans? FWIW, I don’t think you pad your bills. I think you’re so full of shit that you squeak. Given that I’ve never met a Randian who wasn’t either a freshman or sufficiently intellectually and emotionally stunted as to merit the same consideration, I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re a liar, and not a grown-ass man who should know better. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/105 "2008-10-05T15:42:36Z")
You’re either a fervent disciple of St. Ayn, or a Trotskist _provocatuer_ working to incite class war. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/106 "2008-10-05T15:48:06Z")
I assumed Rand Rover was just a fan of the maps. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/107 "2008-10-05T15:55:10Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Kind of like the tendency toward self-aggrandizment that is typical of Rand fans? > > FWIW, I don’t think you pad your bills. I think you’re so full of shit that you squeak. Given that I’ve never met a Randian who wasn’t either a freshman or sufficiently intellectually and emotionally stunted as to merit the same consideration, I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re a liar, and not a grown-ass man who should know better. What exactly do you mean by “I should know better”? I think the only difference between me and most other people like me is I haven’t let people like you make me feel ashamed of my views. Also, most people like me don’t post on message boards, so you mopes should consider yourself lucky. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/108 "2008-10-05T15:57:33Z")
> [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](#): > > You, in the sense that anyone could find Palin’s astonishment at not being able to talk about whatever she wanted to and her irritation in having to answer direct questions about statements she herself made, _during an interview_, “quite interesting”. > > Some more interesting stuff: [Video link.](http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/30/palins-news/) What I found “quite interesting” was that even in that interview with Fox, she failed to bring her points, if there even are any, across. She claimed to want to talk about what she would bring and what values she holds, but instead attacked Obama. I would have liked to hear her actually talk about something relevant, and found her failure to do so interesting. Perhaps ‘telling’ would have been a better word? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/109 "2008-10-05T16:05:59Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > ..so you mopes should consider yourself lucky. 🙂 Oh, I do, very much so. You are the best propaganda point a lefty like me could ever wish for. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/110 "2008-10-05T16:13:33Z")
\*most people like me don’t post on message boards \* No, they’re to busy posting all-capped rubbish to youtube. ---
**Author:** ![Dumbguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dumbguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dumbguy)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/111 "2008-10-05T16:27:05Z")
> [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](#): > > Some more interesting stuff: [Video link.](http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/30/palins-news/) Remember those Tonight Show segments where they ask current events questions to random stoned teenagers on the street? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/112 "2008-10-05T16:48:39Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > You need to learn the difference between fact and opinion. Those facts are easily found on any news website and on the Department of Labor website. I won’t wait for an apology, you condescending little prick. Go fuck yourself. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/113 "2008-10-05T18:06:19Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] You are the best propaganda point a lefty like me could ever wish for. [/QUOTE] As far as opinion goes, Rand is pretty much an orphan huddled against the storm. Well, other than the net, of course, where any lunacy can find a home. His avid suck-rich-cock McCain right-wingery [doesn’t find much favor among economists either.](http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342127) He’s also become a bit of bore. Greedy hardass, dazzled by his own excellence. Just not much material there for agreement, much less appreciation. For a while I wondered whether Rand was just an unusually clever lefty provocateur but nope, he’s actually serious in his wingnuttery. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/114 "2008-10-05T18:28:55Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > As far as opinion goes, Rand is pretty much an orphan huddled against the storm. Well, other than the net, of course, where any lunacy can find a home. His avid suck-rich-cock McCain right-wingery [doesn’t find much favor among economists either.](http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342127) > > He’s also become a bit of bore. Greedy hardass, dazzled by his own excellence. Just not much material there for agreement, much less appreciation. > > For a while I wondered whether Rand was just an unusually clever lefty provocateur but nope, he’s actually serious in his wingnuttery. Nah, he’s just a troll. And a stupid motherfucker to boot. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/115 "2008-10-05T19:22:00Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Those facts are easily found on any news website and on the Department of Labor website. I won’t wait for an apology, you condescending little prick. Go fuck yourself. In other words, you are unable to craft an argiment that they are facts and not opinions, so you resort to insults. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/116 "2008-10-05T19:42:57Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > you mopes should consider yourself lucky Hey, hey, hey. I’m not a mope. I’m a jamoke. Get it right. Of course, you’re a tweezerdick yahoo, so I guess it’s all a wash. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/117 "2008-10-05T19:55:44Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Cite where I said anything about ChefGuy. I quoted you and responded to you. Again, learn to read. Sorry, that was cricetus who said what I attributed to you. My apologies. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/118 "2008-10-05T19:57:54Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > As far as opinion goes, Rand is pretty much an orphan huddled against the storm. Well, other than the net, of course, where any lunacy can find a home. His avid suck-rich-cock McCain right-wingery [doesn’t find much favor among economists either.](http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342127) > > He’s also become a bit of bore. Greedy hardass, dazzled by his own excellence. Just not much material there for agreement, much less appreciation. > > For a while I wondered whether Rand was just an unusually clever lefty provocateur but nope, he’s actually serious in his wingnuttery. It’s really sad and telling that you think an idea as simple as “the government should not take money from the rich for the purpose of making cash handouts to the poor” is some far-out nutty thing and how dare I have the temerity to hold it. Shows how much of a far left echo chamber the SDMB really is. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/119 "2008-10-05T20:06:27Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > In other words, you are unable to craft an argiment that they are facts and not opinions, so you resort to insults. FTR: Rand Rover has yet to comment on Friday’s unemployment report. Headline: [159,000 Jobs Lost in September, the Worst Month in Five Years](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/business/economy/04jobs.html?_r=1&ref=economy&oref=slogin). Insults aside, I’ll note that armchair libertarians often have a pronounced aversion to matters empirical. This is not the case for all libertarians though: the Cato Foundation may use crude methods at times, but they do keep an eye on data as well as the actual practices of government. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417/120 "2008-10-05T20:14:55Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > In other words, you are unable to craft an argiment that they are facts and not opinions, so you resort to insults. What a stupid motherfucker. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-supports-hamas/466417.md?page=7)