# Sarah Palin takes no responsibility for the Tucson shootings? Really? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 10, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104 "2011-01-10T16:09:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/361 "2011-01-12T14:29:14Z")
Well, in that case, I WILL link to [Christina Aguilera’s “Bobblehead.”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEoqeHuytw&NR=1) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/362 "2011-01-12T14:32:40Z")
Blood libel is an interesting choice of words. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/363 "2011-01-12T14:43:37Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Blood libel is an interesting choice of words. Interesting ain’t the tenth of it. I saw the “blood libel” quote in a headline on google news, and immediately thought “Palin has lost the Jewish vote forever”. Wiki on Blood Libel: [Blood libel - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel) Palin is in a different galactic megacluster from having a clue. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/364 "2011-01-12T14:45:24Z")
[QUOTE=Cat Whisperer] Well, in that case, I WILL link to Christina Aguilera’s “Bobblehead.” [/QUOTE] I \<3 you. ---
**Author:** ![MoGlow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@MoGlow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoGlow)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/365 "2011-01-12T14:48:55Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > That makes one of us. Unless your cause is making yourself look like an ass. The nonsense requests for cites are a nice touch. Hi Marley: It’s sites not cites. So you believe that providing supportive facts to back one’s opinion is nonsense? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/366 "2011-01-12T14:52:02Z")
> [@Typo\_Knig](#): > > Interesting ain’t the tenth of it. It was intended to be an understatement. The phrasing is crass and exploitive, not to mention inaccurate. But here we go again. She really crossed into DNFTT-land a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/367 "2011-01-12T14:52:35Z")
> [@MoGlow](#): > > Hi Marley: > > It’s sites not cites. So you believe that providing supportive facts to back one’s opinion is nonsense? Wrong again! Look, **Bricker** is a smart guy, even when his politics make him say stupid things. Even a waste of protoplasm like **Starving Artist** writes better than you do. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/368 "2011-01-12T14:53:56Z")
> [@MoGlow](#): > > Hi Marley: > > It’s sites not cites. So you believe that providing supportive facts to back one’s opinion is nonsense? BWAAAAAA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAA-HAAAAAA! Hoo boy, you’re a pip! ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/369 "2011-01-12T14:58:01Z")
When I first heard about this, I thought it was a lie. I didn’t think anybody could be so fucking cosmically stupid, partisan and hateful as to think Palin’s graphic is responsible. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/370 "2011-01-12T15:00:53Z")
> [@MoGlow](#): > > It’s sites not cites. Cite is short for citation, and that’s the word I wanted. You’re off to a good start today. > [@](#): > > So you believe that providing supportive facts to back one’s opinion is nonsense? No. I think you are making nonsense demands for citations. Instead of asking for support for any particular point, for example, you just say people should link to stuff. That’s idiotic, particularly since you’re doing a bad job of using links to support your own arguments. (For example, “I am angry” is not violent rhetoric, and the “I want to know whose ass to kick” comment was about the BP oil spill last year.) But that’s just a reading comprehension failure and it’s actually less stupid than most of the other crap you’ve posted to this point. Which dumbass Nazi liberal psycho druggies do you think your argument is going to win over? ---
**Author:** ![MoGlow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@MoGlow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoGlow)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/371 "2011-01-12T15:08:02Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > This from the person who tried to imply that Obama and the libs would kill your granny or handicapped child by putting them in front of a death panel. > > Her cuntishness makes my skin crawl. Crikey! The palin derangement syndrome apparent in so many leftist libs is amazing. It reeks of Loughners obsession with Giffords. Do the libs realize that Palin is not even a politician at this point? She is simply a pundit. Also, FYI, for those prone to making assumptions. I have no opinion yay or nay regarding Palin. Maybe she would make a could POTUS, maybe not. She hasn’t yet had the chance to try and then screw up. I will make my decision about her if and when she actually becomes POTUS I do not see the Republicans, independents, conservatives and moderate democrats have Obama derangement syndrome to a similar degree, and Obama is actually the president…a guy who can actually make decisions that change citizens lives. From an intellectual perspective Palin holds no power to change laws, so why get all worked up about her? What I do see, here and elsewhere on the net, however, is that a lot of people are becoming disillusioned with mindless insults and unsupported by fact accusations that the leftist liberals constantly level even as they hypocritically call for a kinder discourse and non partisanship. I do not see kind discourse from the liberals here. Just silly, devoid of facts opinions and insults to other members. I know that many other people see that too. So, it seems that really what the liberals want is to be able to insult and engage in rude unkind discourse while trying to prevent anyone else from pointing this out because when the do, they claim it is unkind and rude. :smack:🆒 A lack of insight regarding one’s obviously hypocritical behavior, is not healthy. And parnoia about a pundit is not healhty either. It’s definitely a sign of pathology similar to the type Loughner, a paranoid schizophrenic, suffered. The leftist liberals are even starting to turn on poor Obama when he does not march to the beat of the loud drum and instead listens to the majority of the citizens, as one typically does in a democratic Republic such as the U.S. I mean when Obama listens to the majority, the guy is being a good POTUS, based on U.S. history. Just yesterday some boneheaded actor was on TV screaming that Obama is not giving enough money to help people in Africa. Crikey, Obama has enough problems with poor people in the U.S. The U.S. is not a bottomless pit of money that can help everyone in every country. The U.S. is in a deep recession and Obama is trying to hold it together. The leftist liberals need to get their priorities straight and stop criticizing the guy. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/372 "2011-01-12T15:11:03Z")
> [@MoGlow](#): > > I do not see the Republicans, independents, conservatives and moderate democrats have Obama derangement syndrome to a similar degree, and Obama is actually the president…a guy who can actually make decisions that change citizens lives. You must be shitting me. A large chunk of people think he’s a Kenyan sleeper agent. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/373 "2011-01-12T15:16:37Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > When I first heard about this, I thought it was a lie. I didn’t think anybody could be so fucking cosmically stupid, partisan and hateful as to think Palin’s graphic is responsible. Er, why? [It’s been a subject of discussion and concern](http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/03/27/91203/palin-denounces-violence-but-gun.html), including from Rep Giffords herself, from the moment it was first posted. Just to be clear, I think that this whole fooferaw about the gunsight graphic is making a mountain out of a molehill, and fairly weak tea in the domain of partisan nastiness, but I’ve got no problem with discussion of its appropriateness. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/374 "2011-01-12T15:19:35Z")
> [@MoGlow](#): > > Crikey! The palin derangement syndrome… > > [snip] > > Crikey, Obama has enough problems… You have used up your **Crikey!** quota for the day. **Blimey!** is a suitable alternative, as is **Odds Bodkins!** Please mind your interjections. ---
**Author:** ![MoGlow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@MoGlow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoGlow)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/375 "2011-01-12T15:19:37Z")
> [@](#): > > Cite is short for citation, and that’s the word I wanted. You’re off to a good start today. Good throw. 😛 It’s best to not assume that one’s readers are psychic. It’s best to make ones point, clearly and accurately. > [@](#): > > No. I think you are making nonsense demands for citations. Instead of asking for support for any particular point, for example, you just say people should link to stuff. I said quite clearly that people need to link to facts that support their opinions. I see that you have deliberately chosen to ignore that fact. I do not see the libs here bringing any facts to their case. I do see lots of pointless insulting going on and a lot or rather rude words and discourse. The libs are truly shameless in their hypocrisy. But that is what happens when they see their chance to install their foolish ideologies swirling down the drain. 😛 > [@](#): > > That’s idiotic, particularly since you’re doing a bad job of using links to support your own arguments. (For example, “I am angry” is not violent rhetoric, and the “I want to know whose ass to kick” comment was about the BP oil spill last year.) But that’s just a reading comprehension failure and it’s actually less stupid than most of the other crap you’ve posted to this point. Which dumbass Nazi liberal psycho druggies do you think your argument is going to win over? Oh my some more insults and hypocritical rationalizations. 😃 You are too easy and you are making my case. Yes. I know it’s so much easier to just try to insult people rather than engage in kinder discourse…the kind the liberals are now claiming to call for. So you are seriously saying that because Obama’s words are not violent rhetoric? I can only laugh at the hypocrisy and lack of insight inherent in those words. But I do thank you for posting them. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/376 "2011-01-12T15:21:58Z")
> [@MoGlow](#): > > Crikey! The leftist liberals are even starting to turn on poor Obama when he does not march to the beat of the loud drum and instead listens to the majority of the citizens, as one typically does in a democratic Republic such as the U.S. I mean when Obama listens to the majority, the guy is being a good POTUS, based on U.S. history. > > Just yesterday some boneheaded actor was on TV screaming that Obama is not giving enough money to help people in Africa. Crikey, Obama has enough problems with poor people in the U.S. The U.S. is not a bottomless pit of money that can help everyone in every country. The U.S. is in a deep recession and Obama is trying to hold it together. The leftist liberals need to get their priorities straight and stop criticizing the guy. Congratulations\*\* 'Glow\*\*! After 33 posts (and counting) you finally said something that made sense. Even if it wasn’t particularly pertinent to the thread at hand… ---
**Author:** ![MoGlow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@MoGlow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoGlow)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/377 "2011-01-12T15:22:51Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You must be shitting me. A large chunk of people think he’s a Kenyan sleeper agent. Oh my more insults. Can you not speak without using rude language? Actually, Fox News, has denounced the birther claims. They actually found a newspaper announcement of Obama’s birth. Fox News, BTW, in case you are not aware, has the highest viewer and profit rating of any mainstream or cable news station. so, my dear but oh so rude boy, what segment are you talking about? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/378 "2011-01-12T15:24:24Z")
> [@MoGlow](#): > > Hi Marley: > > It’s sites not cites. So you believe that providing supportive facts to back one’s opinion is nonsense? Funniest thing I’ve read so far this year! Thanks for lightening the mood! ---
**Author:** ![MoGlow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@MoGlow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoGlow)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/379 "2011-01-12T15:24:42Z")
> [@SeldomSeen](#): > > Congratulations\*\* 'Glow\*\*! After 33 posts (and counting) you finally said something that made sense. Even if it wasn’t particularly pertinent to the thread at hand… Seldom seen: Do you not think that you might want to engage in the kinder discourse, free of pointless insults, that your leftist lib leaders are so hypocritically calling for, even as they engage in rude and pointless insults. Lack of insight is a sign of serious psychological pathology. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/380 "2011-01-12T15:28:46Z")
Dude, you’re in the Bar-B-Q Pit, rude language is expected. Now put your monacle back in and man up. And what does Fox News have to do with what birthers think? Oh right, cuz the FNC speaks for the Republican Party, anyone that believes anything outside of their proclamations isn’t “on message.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104.md?page=20)