# Sarah Palin takes no responsibility for the Tucson shootings? Really? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 10, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104 "2011-01-10T16:09:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/481 "2011-01-12T17:24:44Z")
> [@](#): > > …but i really gotta’ go. I will be back when time allows. We wait with bated breath. (Hmmm, I’m busy, gotta go, be back soon. Sounds vaguely familiar…) ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/482 "2011-01-12T17:27:28Z")
Oh no. Not another one of these multiple goodbye types. “I’ve got to run next door to borrow some sugar. I’ll be back!” This is a discussion thread on internet message board. Nobody cares where you’re going or what you have to do. We’re not all actually sitting around in a room waiting to hear from you. Is this something with rabid conservatives and the internet? Is it just the SDMB? Or is just **Starving** and **NoGlow**? ETA: Dammit, **elucidator** beat me to it. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/483 "2011-01-12T17:31:42Z")
There’s a word for those who like to [control people](http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-A-Psychopath/1340442) via Internet messages. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/484 "2011-01-12T17:37:56Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > There’s a word for those who like to [control people](http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-A-Psychopath/1340442) via Internet messages. The usual word is several letters shorter than “psychopath.” I saw the blog post when **MoGlow** joined. It does lend some insight into the way he keeps bringing up other peoples’ mothers for no reason. Maybe this is a lesson intended to teach us that the Hannibal Lecter stereotype of crazy people as master manipulators is crap. For example, maybe some of them try to manipulate people, but fail because they’re smug and unfamiliar with basic logic. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/485 "2011-01-12T17:39:42Z")
I like Kieth Olbermann’s Tweet about Sarah Palin on this subject: > (Can we quote whole Tweets on the SDMB or are they protected by copyright? Kind of difficult to quote a portion of a medium that only allows 140 characters and have it make any sense. Just in case I posted the link.) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/486 "2011-01-12T17:40:15Z")
> [@MoGlow](#): > > Hey I am having fun, but i really gotta’ go. I will be back when time allows. 🙂 (in other words, when his Mom says he can get back on the computer because his math homework is done) ETA: Crikey this is fun! Also: Please add “your” to the words the troll cannot spell. As in “Your wrong.” ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/487 "2011-01-12T17:41:41Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > There really is something about arrogant idiots on the 'net, isn’t there? ‘Dance, puppets, dance! Continues to prove my arguments wrong and my characterizations nonsensical - it only brings me closer to total victory!’ You do know that’s one of the more common manifestations of schizophreen? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/488 "2011-01-12T17:42:40Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > You do know that’s one of the more common manifestations of schizophreen? Obnoxiousness? See my more recent post about **MoGlow** ’s mental health. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/489 "2011-01-12T17:42:46Z")
> [@MoGlow](#): > > I see that Molly Ivins does your thinking for you? Molly Ivins is dead and her corpse is still smarter than you appear to be from a casual perusal of this thread. Crikey, was that my outer voice? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/490 "2011-01-12T17:57:20Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > (in other words, when his Mom says he can get back on the computer because his math homework is done) > > ETA: Crikey this is fun! > > Also: Please add “your” to the words the troll cannot spell. As in “Your wrong.” ROFL Maybe it was being used correctly… 1. Your wrong. 2. Yes indeed, it was my bad. Thank your for letting me know. 😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/491 "2011-01-12T17:59:09Z")
As far as I know, the whole root of the matter is, one side can use all sorts of “death and killing imagery” but the other side can not. One side can plaster it on anything they please, and the other side has to carefully choose. I still call it hypocritical bullshit. Gotta run, it’s ass scratching time (or something). :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/492 "2011-01-12T18:02:23Z")
> [@PhiloVance](#): > > [http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544\_162-20028105-503544.html](http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20028105-503544.html) Wow. Even most Democrats says that the rhetoric and the shootings are unrelated. Independents break 56% to 33% for ‘unrelated.’ I was afraid for a bit that this trial balloon might catch on, but now I think it will be discarded. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/493 "2011-01-12T18:03:24Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I like Kieth Olbermann’s Tweet about Sarah Palin on this subject: > > [http://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/25205368099438594](http://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/25205368099438594) > > (Can we quote whole Tweets on the SDMB or are they protected by copyright? Kind of difficult to quote a portion of a medium that only allows 140 characters and have it make any sense. Just in case I posted the link.) Me, too. It shows Palin’s idiocy quite succinctly. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/494 "2011-01-12T18:08:28Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Wow. Even most Democrats says that the rhetoric and the shootings are unrelated. Independents break 56% to 33% for ‘unrelated.’ > > I was afraid for a bit that this trial balloon might catch on, but now I think it will be discarded. Jon Stewart delivered a pretty compelling speech on Monday’s Daily Show urging people not to force a link between the shooter and current political rhetoric, no matter how toxic the latter might be getting. I’m not saying he’s the influence behind those numbers, but I certainly feel contrite about my ranting in these threads. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/495 "2011-01-12T18:13:40Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > Molly Ivins is dead and her corpse is still smarter than you appear to be from a casual perusal of this thread. Crikey, was that my outer voice? I wager 15 quatloos that the newcomer is untrainable. (A disembodied brain has technical issues when it comes to differentiating between “outer” and “inner” voices.) ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/496 "2011-01-12T18:24:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Jeremy Ben-Ami, president of a pro-Israel group called J Street, said that “when Governor Palin learns that many Jews are pained by and take offense at the use of the term, we are sure that she will choose to retract her comment, apologize and make a less inflammatory choice of words.” HaaahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. [http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/12/palin-calls-criticism-blood-libel/?hp](http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/12/palin-calls-criticism-blood-libel/?hp) ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/497 "2011-01-12T18:24:52Z")
> [@PhiloVance](#): > > [http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544\_162-20028105-503544.html](http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20028105-503544.html) Her video is entertaining, to say the least. So by “take up arms”, she obviously meant “vote”. Of course, it’s a common synonym. I know that I’ve often said to my wife, ‘Hey, it’s November 2nd; we need to take up arms today’. I wonder what the response would be if I went on a public forum and said something like: In this presidential election, I’m going to take up arms, put (name) in the crosshairs, and pull the trigger. I would suspect that I would get some very unwelcome attention in a big hurry. Yet a politician (or a nutcase like Palin or Bachmann) says these sorts of things and nobody blinks. “Blood libel”: gee, what a catchy phrase. A bit antisemitic, but I’m sure she meant “fuzzy kitten” instead. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/498 "2011-01-12T18:25:30Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Jon Stewart delivered a pretty compelling speech on Monday’s Daily Show urging people not to force a link between the shooter and current political rhetoric, no matter how toxic the latter might be getting. > > I’m not saying he’s the influence behind those numbers, but I certainly feel contrite about my ranting in these threads. Pardon my potential tone-deafness, but is this a serious statement or sarcasm? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/499 "2011-01-12T18:33:51Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Pardon my potential tone-deafness, but is this a serious statement or sarcasm? Serious. I can see how it could be construed otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/500 "2011-01-12T18:49:12Z")
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