# Sarah Palin takes no responsibility for the Tucson shootings? Really? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 10, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104 "2011-01-10T16:09:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/601 "2011-01-29T17:46:40Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I don’t know… He had me at defining “The Left” as **CannyDan** and some other unnamed posters in a thread… > [@Shayna](#): > > LOL! Well crap, this is what I should expect for not doing vanity searches. I get extensively quoted by **Bricker** , promoted to a lofty position perhaps similar to, say, Michael Moore or other “Lefty” icons (I “define” The Left!! Grovel before me!) – and I don’t even know about it!! Thank you, thank you, hold your applause, be sure to tip your veal and try the waitress… Sheesch… Next time something like this happens, somebody please PM me while I still have time to bask in the glory. ---
**Author:** ![MoGlow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@MoGlow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoGlow)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/602 "2011-01-29T17:49:00Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > And you never disappoint. Dance, little puppet, dance! I am still waiting for you to post a post of substance one that contains facts instead of the increasingly transparent and useless tactic of liberals simply trying to use ridicule to distract readers from the truth. The last election indicates that this tactic is already past its “sell by” date. I think you are the one “tap dancing” around the issue. Instead of actually posting anything of substance you are doing exactly what I claim liberals do…avoiding facts and resorting to nothing but pointless ridicule devoid of facts. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/603 "2011-01-29T18:09:58Z")
> [@MoGlow](#): > > I think you are the one “tap dancing” around the issue. Instead of actually posting anything of substance you are doing exactly what I claim liberals do…avoiding facts and resorting to nothing but pointless ridicule devoid of facts. Let’s see if I can dumb this down to your level…“I know you are, but what am I?” Oh, and “Thank you for proving my point!” ---
**Author:** ![MoGlow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@MoGlow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoGlow)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/604 "2011-01-29T20:23:05Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Let’s see if I can dumb this down to your level…“I know you are, but what am I?” > > Oh, and “Thank you for proving my point!” Are you too dumb to see how dumb that statement is? It’s just another “nyah nyah” statement without substance. Still more insults devoid of facts. Also thank you for giving me another opportunity to provide some more facts regarding how violent liberals are: 🆒 Here is another link for your viewing and dancing pleasure. It highlights an unhinged Obama supporter trashing GOP signs and spewing racist remarks: [http://www.wikio.com/video/perriello-supporter-violent-4445879](http://www.wikio.com/video/perriello-supporter-violent-4445879) Here’s another of liberals burning Bush in Effigy. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/HINhfkQAz1g/hqdefault.jpg "George W Bush burns in effigy (Washington DC)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HINhfkQAz1g) I am enjoying dancing with you. Your turn to dance. I bet it will be another tap dance totally devoid of substance or fact but heavy on baseless insults unsupported by evidence. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/605 "2011-01-29T23:50:38Z")
The occasional lefty nut burning Bush in effigy is not a spokesman for the liberals. Palin is a righty in front of the line for the next presidential election. She has a hugh sounding board with a Fox program and every utterance covered by the press. They are not the same thing. A righty wearing a gun to an Obama rally is different. The right wing supports outrageous gun rights. He is acting like a righty. Leftys are by far a more peaceful and law biding group that the rightys. We don’t encourage shooting politicians, the 2nd amendment solution the rightys offer. ---
**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/606 "2011-01-30T16:44:39Z")
Too bad some of the Tuscon “leftys” in attendance didn’t own a sidearm they were carrying that day. Loughner would be dead and we wouldn’t be having this argument. That is, assuming they self-identified as a “lefty.” I’m going to have to remember to ask some of my left-leaning firearms-owning friends if they have any preference on that. Seems like killing ought to be more of a bi-partisan activity. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/607 "2011-01-30T20:24:43Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Leftys are by far a more peaceful and law biding group that the rightys. Oh, really? Surely you have a cite for that. Like, perhaps, the political affiliation of those in prison. Something else? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/608 "2011-01-30T20:35:43Z")
> [@MoGlow](#): > > I am still waiting for you to post a post of substance one that contains facts instead of the increasingly transparent and useless tactic of liberals simply trying to use ridicule to distract readers from the truth. The last election indicates that this tactic is already past its “sell by” date. Why yes, liberals are known for ignoring the truth in political debates. How silly to assume otherwise. Nearly every week I have to restrain myself from breaking out the big guns and questioning the planetary dwellings of those opposed to me a la Barney Frank, and this is one of those times. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/609 "2011-01-30T23:33:52Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Oh, really? Surely you have a cite for that. Like, perhaps, the political affiliation of those in prison. Something else? Crappy response. Most people are not in jail due to party affiliation although Palin and a few other rightys would like to make that so. Of course the real thieves who are safe and warm in banks, are doing fine. They are paying their Republican Party dues and attending church. Our rightys just admire them so much. There is no law enforcement against big theft. It is annoying little theft that gets prosecuted. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/610 "2011-01-31T21:32:26Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Crappy response. Most people are not in jail due to party affiliation although Palin and a few other rightys would like to make that so. > Of course the real thieves who are safe and warm in banks, are doing fine. They are paying their Republican Party dues and attending church. Our rightys just admire them so much. There is no law enforcement against big theft. It is annoying little theft that gets prosecuted. Shitty try on your part. Here was your claim: [QUOTE=gonzomax] Leftys are by far a more peaceful and law biding group that the rightys. [/QUOTE] I asked you for a cite to back that up. As one avenue, I suggested you look at those who we KNOW to not abide by the law, i.e., those in prison. So, either you can look at the group we know has broken laws and hope to learn their party affiliation (and it will back up your point), or you can supply some other substantiation. Otherwise, people might think you’re just spouting partisan nonsense. And you surely wouldn’t want people to think that, would you? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/611 "2011-02-01T00:41:23Z")
How many registered voters are you expecting to find on Cell Block C, anyway? Let’s call it a wash and assume that all of them, from the Aryan Brotherhood and the Nazi Lowriders, to European Kindred and Confederate Knights of America would all register as Independents if they could. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/612 "2011-02-01T14:59:05Z")
It’s easy to be law-abiding when you’re writing the laws. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/613 "2011-02-01T15:47:23Z")
> [@MoGlow](#): > > Liberal, socialist, communist, welfare queen, no ambition. …all mean the same thing. > [@MoGlow](#): > > I am still waiting for you to post a post of substance one that contains facts instead of the increasingly transparent and useless tactic of liberals simply trying to use ridicule to distract readers from the truth. The last election indicates that this tactic is already past its “sell by” date. :rolleyes: 1. This would have more impact if you yourself were saying anything, you know, serious. 2. Tip: “Kill your opponent’s earnestness with jesting and his jesting with earnestness.” That is **never** “past its ‘sell by’ date,” it goes back to the rhetorician [Gorgias.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgias) ---
**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/614 "2011-02-01T16:16:33Z")
Palin isn’t responsible for anything except her own stupdity. She isn’t important enough to be responsible for anything and isn’t any kind of leader that people pay attention to, except for a good giggle once in a while. She is a laughingstock, and not much more to it. ---
**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/615 "2011-02-01T16:38:30Z")
> [@AshenLady](#): > > She is a laughingstock, and not much more to it. Agreed. But which unfortunately, begs the the original question starting this thread: “Sarah Palin takes no responsibility for the Tucson shootings? Really?” Subsequently pointing to the obvious answer: Hysterical liberal rhetoric - stoked with a fear-driven mass misinformation assault on the nation’s collective sensibilities. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/616 "2011-02-01T16:39:56Z")
> [@ashenlady](#): > > palin isn’t responsible for anything except her own stupdity. She isn’t important enough to be responsible for anything and isn’t any kind of leader that people pay attention to, except for a good giggle once in a while. > > She is a laughingstock, and not much more to it. ☹ **If only!** ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/617 "2011-02-07T19:27:16Z")
Huh. Apparently Palin may want to reconsider her views on civility and negative rhetoric… > [@](#): > > [Palin Event Canceled Due To ‘An Onslaught Of Personal Attacks’](http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/02/palin-event-cancelled-due-to-a.html) > > Former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin was scheduled to speak at an event for a Colorado nonprofit group May 2, but the event was canceled the day after it was announced due to “an onslaught of personal attacks” against Palin… > > The press release goes on to say that no direct threats were made against Palin, nor were any made against members of the organization’s staff, but in light of the shooting rampage in Arizona last month, the negative rhetoric “raises concern for her safety and the safety of others despite the call for civility in America.”… ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/618 "2011-02-07T19:56:53Z")
Someone needs to check my math on this one. After Palin puts out a statement basically shitting on anyone who claimed that negative rhetoric had something to do with the shooting in Tucson, she is now using the shooting in Tucson to claim that negative rhetoric indicates too much of a threat to herself? Do I have that about right? ---
**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/619 "2011-02-07T20:02:19Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Do I have that about right? Yep, makes about as much sense as this: “…the event was canceled the day after it was announced due to “an onslaught of personal attacks” against Palin… The press release goes on to say that no direct threats were made against Palin,..” I suppose there’s a fine line between personal attacks and direct threats where rhetoric comes into play. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-tucson-shootings-really/567104/620 "2011-02-07T20:17:49Z")
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