# Sarah Palin vs. the Anchorage Daily News, or Palling Around With The Facts? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 14, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176 "2009-01-14T01:21:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/101 "2009-01-16T15:21:16Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Insofar as the comment is anything but a one-liner joke riffing on the original “do her” (impression) comment, it actually agrees with your point by mocking the “OMG she’s hawt!” starbursters. So you’re saying what here? That joking about double-entendres of "doing " Palin (meaning both to screw her and to imitate her) is some sort of necessary witty remark at this point? The fact that we’re still passing off such crap as clever or appropriate tells me that her supporters have a very lean time finding positive things to say about her. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/102 "2009-01-16T15:29:04Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > So you’re saying what here? That joking about double-entendres of "doing " Palin (meaning both to screw her and to imitate her) is some sort of necessary witty remark at this point? The fact that we’re still passing off such crap as clever or appropriate tells me that her supporters have a very lean time finding positive things to say about her. It’s become _ironic_. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/103 "2009-01-16T15:38:22Z")
I believe I’m far more in touch with reality than [GOP Rep. Steve King of Iowa](http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17506.html): > [@](#): > > “\*f I am wrong, Geraldo, and we elect Obama to the presidency and he declares defeat, if they don’t dance in the streets, I will come and apologize to you and everybody in America. But I’m saying, I’m right.” > > Well, Osama isn’t doing an Obama jig, and this week, Bin Laden released an audio tape challenging the new president. > > While he was willing to concede he was wrong about the whole terrorist street dancing routine, King has moved on to the whole “Hussein” controversy. > > He doesn’t like the fact that the president-elect will be sworn in using that middle name during Tuesday’s Inauguration. > > After telling the Associated Press last year that Obama’s middle name was among the reasons Islamic terrorists would rejoice over his election, King says he’s since been careful to avoid using it. Thus he found Obama’s decision to allow it be mentioned on the steps of the Capitol “bizarre” and “a double-standard.” > > “Is that reserved just for him, not his critics?” King asked. > > The congressman says he doubts Obama’s sincerity when he explained that he chose to use his middle name so as to be historically consistent with past inaugurations, when America has heard the full names of its presidents echo from the inaugural stand. > > _“Whatever his reasons are,” King said, “the one he gave us could not be the reason.”_ Italics mine. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/104 "2009-01-16T15:44:11Z")
Wait, so the guy voluntarily avoided using Obama’s middle name without being asked, then got pissed off when Obama uses it? _Baghdad Bob_ was more in touch with reality than this guy. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/105 "2009-01-16T16:09:14Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > So you’re saying what here? That joking about double-entendres of "doing " Palin (meaning both to screw her and to imitate her) is some sort of necessary witty remark at this point? The fact that we’re still passing off such crap as clever or appropriate tells me that her supporters have a very lean time finding positive things to say about her. Well at this point it’s just fun to watch you pontificate like a moron extrapolating all kinds of wild theories about people’s opinions of her. Don’t let that stop you though, keep making shit up, it’s funny to me at least. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/106 "2009-01-16T16:11:12Z")
**RTFirefly** I’ll concede that liberals are MOSTLY more in touch with conservatives, but not by the wide margin most liberals like to congratulate themselves for. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/107 "2009-01-16T16:41:06Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Well at this point it’s just fun to watch you pontificate like a moron extrapolating all kinds of wild theories about people’s opinions of her. Don’t let that stop you though, keep making shit up, it’s funny to me at least. 😉 Name a “wild theory”; name an example of “my making shit up”–or else just keep making, but not substantiating, your own wild theories and your own made up shit. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/108 "2009-01-16T16:45:14Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Name a “wild theory”; name an example of “my making shit up”–or else just keep making, but not substantiating, your own wild theories and your own made up shit. Well the bit about me being a Palin supporter is one example. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/109 "2009-01-17T02:13:54Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > **RTFirefly** I’ll concede that liberals are MOSTLY more in touch with conservatives, but not by the wide margin most liberals like to congratulate themselves for. 😉 This isn’t about self-congratulation. If the other side simply abandons the field of reality, you don’t get to pat yourself on the back for still being there after they’ve left. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/110 "2009-01-17T02:23:07Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Well the bit about me being a Palin supporter is one example. Of what, fuckwit? The first page of this thread, which you entered to prevent all these horrible liberals from criticizing Palin, [QUOTE=your entire fucking first post, verbatim] Sarah Palin sneezes, Oh my God I am so fucking outraged! How dare that woman still breathe! Something must be done! Quick everyone as a panacea for this affront to our sensibilities congratulate each other on being liberal, it’s our only hope! [/QUOTE] is solid evidence that you identify yourself as a Palin supporter, as against liberals, and as a stirrer-up of tedious shit. Try convincing someone else how you’re politically neutral–you’re a simpleminded thug and a worthless troll. ---
**Author:** ![Ocean\_Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8797f3/32.png) [@Ocean\_Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ocean_Annie)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/111 "2009-01-17T04:44:10Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Wait, so the guy voluntarily avoided using Obama’s middle name without being asked, then got pissed off when Obama uses it? _Baghdad Bob_ was more in touch with reality than this guy. Obama needs a middle name like Trick, Frick, Tag, or Mag like the Palins’ choice of names. It only makes sense that the anti-intellectual and anti-reason, Sarah Palin, would choose names devoid of any historical or cultural meaning for her children. Using a person’s name as an ethnic pejorative is the most banal and insidious form of bigotry. These fucking incompetent bigots on the hill have to go. I am quickly losing faith in democracy. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/112 "2009-01-17T05:07:05Z")
**pseudotriton ruber ruber** Making fun of liberals =/= supporting Sarah Palin. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/113 "2009-01-17T10:01:41Z")
I give you the Senators - more than half the Senate GOP caucus - who [voted against cloture](http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00004#position) on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Their position seems to be that if you allow people to sue for pay discrimination when they find out about it, rather than when the discrimination was initiated, some lawyers might benefit, so that would be bad. There’s no point in even talking to people like this. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/114 "2009-01-17T13:34:30Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > **pseudotriton ruber ruber** Making fun of liberals =/= supporting Sarah Palin. Making fun of liberals for the sake of being liberals? Sure, that’s an identifying characteristic of Palin supporters. You aren’t a liberal criticising other liberals, however you try to spin it. You’re a hater of liberals, of anyone on the other side of the political aisle from you, and don’t try again to convince me that you’re not a hardcore Republican, because everything you’ve written here on your politics is consistent with that characterization. You sometimes pose otherwise. (“I voted for Obama”–as if we could possibly verify or falsify that–is one such posing.) But you can’t show what you are as consistent as you have, and expect reasonable people to think there’s anything remotely ambiguous about that. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/115 "2009-01-17T18:33:45Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I give you the Senators - more than half the Senate GOP caucus - who [voted against cloture](http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00004#position) on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. > > Their position seems to be that if you allow people to sue for pay discrimination when they find out about it, rather than when the discrimination was initiated, some lawyers might benefit, so that would be bad. > > There’s no point in even talking to people like this. Especially when they [vow to be “Obama’s worst nightmare”](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/16/rnc-candidates-turn-up-the-partisan-heat-on-obama/) rather than doing anything constructive to get us out of the mess they did so much to create in the last eight years: > [@](#): > > Despite the climate of national goodwill surrounding Barack Obama as he prepares to take the oath of office, two of the candidates vying to lead the Republican National Committee unleashed harsh attacks against the president-elect on Friday. > > Katon Dawson, the chairman of the South Carolina Republican Party, promised in a new a YouTube message to be Obama’s “worst nightmare” and said it would be the party’s mission for the next four years to “expose” the Democrats for what they “want to do to this country.” > > “I can assure you that Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid will understand that Katon Dawson will become their worst nightmare,” he says in the video. “We will expose them at every turn for what they are doing to the American public.” > > [snip] > > Earlier in the day, former Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, who has positioned himself as one of the most rigidly conservative contenders for the RNC’s top job, published a column on [Townhall.com](http://Townhall.com) accusing Obama’s economic stimulus package of being a liberal “Trojan Horse” that has “serious flaws, some of which convey a partisan advantage.” > > Obama’s stimulus plan would create government jobs, Blackwell argued, and government workers tend to vote Democrat. He called it “political mischief.” What was that about “Country First”, eh? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/116 "2009-01-17T19:30:51Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Making fun of liberals for the sake of being liberals? Sure, that’s an identifying characteristic of Palin supporters. You aren’t a liberal criticising other liberals, however you try to spin it. You’re a hater of liberals, of anyone on the other side of the political aisle from you, and don’t try again to convince me that you’re not a hardcore Republican, because everything you’ve written here on your politics is consistent with that characterization. You sometimes pose otherwise. (“I voted for Obama”–as if we could possibly verify or falsify that–is one such posing.) But you can’t show what you are as consistent as you have, and expect reasonable people to think there’s anything remotely ambiguous about that. Wow, I nominate you moron of the month. Your logic circuits are failing. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/117 "2009-01-17T21:35:40Z")
Another good rejoinder. You’re improving. You’re almost up to “dumb as dirt.” ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/118 "2009-01-17T21:37:45Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Another good rejoinder. You’re improving. > > You’re almost up to “dumb as dirt.” I like to give the comments the exact credit they deserve. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176/119 "2009-01-17T23:47:04Z")
Here I figured I’d play Sir Help-a-Tard and be magnanimous. Here is a post where I state I am voting for Obama in October: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10209205&highlight=voting+obama#post10209205](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10209205&highlight=voting+obama#post10209205) Here is the search where I searched my own posts from 3 months ago or more looking for the phrase, “voting for Obama”. I don’t know if this will be sufficient proof for you. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=3994713](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=3994713) I mean after all I could’ve been on a long term campaign to fool people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-vs-the-anchorage-daily-news-or-palling-around-with-the-facts/481176.md?page=5)