# Sarah Silverman owns Paris at MTV Movie awards **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 4, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715 "2007-06-04T16:45:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/121 "2007-06-06T23:53:15Z")
[QUOTE=missouri65] Wee Bairn (or anyone else), could you explain the Giraldo joke? Not the joke really, but Silverman’s reputation. I don’t really know anything about her personal life pre-Kimmel, and nothing I’ve seen online helps me understand the reference. I believe it though, because her attraction to Kimmel couldn’t possibly be based on looks or his sense of humor. [/QUOTE] Basically, a lot of Silverman’s jokes come down to switched-up expectations. They all start similarly to most female comics, you think it’s about her relationship and how the guy won’t listen. By the end she’s telling some foulmouthed story about how she fucked an entire subway car full of guys or some such. Fine you’ll say. That’s just her stage personality and she’s not like that in real life. But then you start seeing her in things outside of her stage act. An interview on a talk show. An appearance at an awards show. Hanging out with her boyfreind _Jimmy Kimmel_. Whatever she does, she’s got this air about her that says “I’m a sad and dejected geek with fabulous tits, I think I’ll go screw that guy over there and see if it gets me anything.” (Which I think is an almost direct quote from her standup). Plus, I remember the look on her face after Giraldo said it was more “Yup, ya got me” rather than “You weasally son of a bitch! I’ll get you next time!” ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/122 "2007-06-07T00:19:41Z")
[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey] Basically, a lot of Silverman’s jokes come down to switched-up expectations. They all start similarly to most female comics, you think it’s about her relationship and how the guy won’t listen. By the end she’s telling some foulmouthed story about how she fucked an entire subway car full of guys or some such. Fine you’ll say. That’s just her stage personality and she’s not like that in real life. But then you start seeing her in things outside of her stage act. An interview on a talk show. An appearance at an awards show. Hanging out with her boyfreind _Jimmy Kimmel_. Whatever she does, she’s got this air about her that says “I’m a sad and dejected geek with fabulous tits, I think I’ll go screw that guy over there and see if it gets me anything.” (Which I think is an almost direct quote from her standup). Plus, I remember the look on her face after Giraldo said it was more “Yup, ya got me” rather than “You weasally son of a bitch! I’ll get you next time!” [/QUOTE] Yep- I mean come on, she could date anybody- and she chooses Jimmy Kimmell, a guy who develops projects or is somehow tied to Comedy Central and is, no offense, a slightly below average obese guy with a good sense of humor, and then she gets a show there? True, her quirky humor would fit with other shows on the network, and she is talented, but hey, could be something to it. And as **JB** , said above, her reaction to the joke told a good bit as well. ---
**Author:** ![PharmBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@PharmBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PharmBoy)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/123 "2007-06-07T00:32:38Z")
[QUOTE=DiosaBellissima] You know, I dislike Paris as much as the next sane person, but that clip made me incredibly uncomfortable and also made me feel bad for Hilton. I suppose she should have expected that they’d make fun of her, considering that she was set to turn herself in to jail on Tuesday (but did last night), but Silverman just went too far. Hilton might be a big joke herself, but good lord. And Silverman clearly saw that they were panning to Hilton, because she said, “Oh, sweetie. . .” after looking off to a side monitor. Hilton might know she’s disliked, but hearing a thousand people cheering at your impending prison sentence has got to ware on you a bit, especially when you already knew you were going to turn yourself in later that night. She did a bad thing (ok, lots of bad things), but she’s still human. Silverman went too far for that laugh and MTV shouldn’t have kept cutting to a clearly uncomfortable Hilton. Sorry, my idea of entertainment isn’t video of a person attempting to fake a smile while they are clearly trying to not burst into tears. PS: **IG** - I don’t think Paris was ever sincerely laughing. She looked incredibly uncomfortable and was looking like she was attempting to pretend she was ok with the joke. It was obvious she was trying not to cry by the look on her face. [/QUOTE] You really give her far too much credit. I don’t think it is possible to embarrass or humiliate Paris Hilton. We’re talking about a girl who was filmed having sex, and she DIDN’T CARE!! I thought Sarah Silverman was brilliantly funny. ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/124 "2007-06-07T00:33:49Z")
[QUOTE=Exapno Mapcase] Paris is a supremely beautiful woman who knows how to look the part at all times. She’s not smart about many things, but she’s smart about her image and she controls every jot and tittle of it. [/QUOTE] Not to pick apart your impassioned rejection of the term “slut,” but could you, or any of the others, please chime in and explain what it is about PH that you find beautiful? Though, in all fairness, she probably took the best mug shot in history. Nice. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/125 "2007-06-07T00:42:51Z")
Here’s the Greg Giraldo bit: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kvFdq5vKJc) Silverman’s reaction is a 1:27 ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/126 "2007-06-07T02:08:14Z")
[QUOTE=Hippy Hollow] Not to pick apart your impassioned rejection of the term “slut,” but could you, or any of the others, please chime in and explain what it is about PH that you find beautiful? [/QUOTE] > **[Google Search](http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-18,GGLD:en&q=paris+hilton)** ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/127 "2007-06-07T02:10:03Z")
[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey] Basically, a lot of Silverman’s jokes come down to switched-up expectations. They all start similarly to most female comics, you think it’s about her relationship and how the guy won’t listen. By the end she’s telling some foulmouthed story about how she fucked an entire subway car full of guys or some such. Fine you’ll say. That’s just her stage personality and she’s not like that in real life. But then you start seeing her in things outside of her stage act. An interview on a talk show. An appearance at an awards show. Hanging out with her boyfreind _Jimmy Kimmel_. Whatever she does, she’s got this air about her that says “I’m a sad and dejected geek with fabulous tits, I think I’ll go screw that guy over there and see if it gets me anything.” (Which I think is an almost direct quote from her standup). Plus, I remember the look on her face after Giraldo said it was more “Yup, ya got me” rather than “You weasally son of a bitch! I’ll get you next time!” [/QUOTE] You know absolutely nothing about celebrities from their public appearances. Absolutely. Nothing. This is universally true without exception. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/128 "2007-06-07T02:25:38Z")
[QUOTE=DianaG] Liz Taylor was followed around by cameras for thirty freakin’ years, and yet I’ve never once seen her vagina. Coincidence? I think not. [/QUOTE] Coincidence? Not really- back then vaginas were hidden by pubic hair. 😉 Cartooniverse, who understands biting brilliant angry comedy when he sees it and thinks Sarah Silverman is one of the sharpest comics going today. ---
**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/129 "2007-06-07T03:12:43Z")
Having just watched the Giraldo clip linked above, I didn’t think Sarah Silverman’s reaction looked like there was any emotional involvement at all; neither a rueful, “oh, you got me,” NOR a sour, “oh, that was hitting too low!” She looked to me like she was genuinely laughing in appreciation of another talented comedian’s ability to surprise and shock. Then again, I’ve been a fan of hers ever since she delivered on of the best lines I’ve ever heard, on an episode of _Greg the Bunny_: > [@](#): > > Nobody takes long train rides anymore. Who wants to spend their whole vacation looking at poor people’s back yards? Granted, she probably didn’t write it, but I love her just the same. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/130 "2007-06-07T03:22:21Z")
[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey] Plus, I remember the look on her face after Giraldo said it was more “Yup, ya got me” rather than “You weasally son of a bitch! I’ll get you next time!” [/QUOTE] Of course that’s the face she’s going to make, while seeming to admit it, even revel in it. Her persona in her act is that she’s a perverted, insane, delusional, self-serving, bigoted jerk. It’s her schtick-- she makes fun of herself more than she ever makes fun of anyone else, in her satirical role as a complete asshole. She’s her own straight man. I don’t think it’s an admission of any real-life behavior. Yeah, she made Paris Hilton uncomfortable, but that’s her job. Nothing is sacred, least of all the divine Ms. Hilton. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/131 "2007-06-07T10:40:25Z")
**Exapno Mapcase** I get what you’re saying, I just think it’s silly. These days, to most people, “slut” is \*\*not \*\* a synonym for “promiscuous”. Like “skank” it refers to trashy, as opposed to merely sexual, behavior. Now, clearly, you believe that “slut” means something different than I believe it does. You clearly also believe that “beautiful” means something different than I think it does. But I’m not about to spend my time trying to convince you that the definition of “beautiful” isn’t actually “blonde, bony, and vaguely unwashed”, because I accept that mine is not the final word on these matters. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/132 "2007-06-07T10:44:40Z")
[QUOTE=Exapno Mapcase] > **[Google Search](http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-18,GGLD:en&q=paris+hilton)** [/QUOTE] And? Squarish face, machete nose, vapid expression. Her’s body’s well-toned, but I can walk down to the beach and see 20 more attractive female physiques withing my first three minutes. As for her eyes… … you know, the thing about Paris Hilton… she’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When she comes at ya, she doesn’t seem to be living… until she bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/133 "2007-06-07T11:19:27Z")
**Alessan** , that’s the first thing I’ve ever read that I’d be willing to have tattooed on my body. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/134 "2007-06-07T11:23:52Z")
[QUOTE=Alessan] And? Squarish face, machete nose, vapid expression. Her’s body’s well-toned, but I can walk down to the beach and see 20 more attractive female physiques withing my first three minutes. As for her eyes… … you know, the thing about Paris Hilton… she’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When she comes at ya, she doesn’t seem to be living… until she bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. [/QUOTE] Am I the only one who read that with that scary _du-dum. du-dum. dudumdudum duDUUUUMMMM_ music from the movie going around in her head? ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/135 "2007-06-07T13:08:46Z")
The only flaw I see with Paris is the size 11 (!) feet- that’s bigger than mine. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/136 "2007-06-07T13:52:06Z")
CNN is now reporting that [Paris Hilton has been released.](http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/07/paris.hilton/index.html) Robin ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/137 "2007-06-07T13:54:49Z")
“Well, I hope you’ve learned your lesson, Ms. Hilton. Oh, you haven’t? Well, that’s okay. Did I mention I’m a big fan? I was wondering if I might get your autog… oh, I can go fuck myself? Ok, I’ll do that. Looks like your limo’s here… buh-bye.” ---
**Author:** ![Flea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d78d45/32.png) [@Flea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flea)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/138 "2007-06-07T14:02:24Z")
I wonder what the heck happened there… ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/139 "2007-06-07T14:10:54Z")
So much for learning a real lesson with a real jail term. The obscenely rich prove they are above the law once again. – IG ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715/140 "2007-06-07T14:13:02Z")
[QUOTE=Improv Geek] So much for learning a real lesson with a real jail term. The obscenely rich prove they are above the law once again. – IG [/QUOTE] Exactly- the jail is probably overcrowded with poor people who cant afford the 50 dollar bond for their public intoxication charge, so they release the people who can pay for the privilege. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-silverman-owns-paris-at-mtv-movie-awards/406715.md?page=8)