# Sarah turns opaque. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 16, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856 "2008-09-16T16:46:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2008, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/341 "2008-09-30T04:32:07Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > So you’re not crazy… Well, I never said _that_. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2008, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/342 "2008-09-30T05:09:51Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > He was sneering at the fact that the question was lobbed by someone in the crowd in a pizza joint, so of course it couldn’t matter, since only non-persons frequent pizza joints. And he got that wrong too: It was a Philly cheesesteak place. Not the same thing at all, as any resident of that fair city can (and vociferously will) tell you. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2008, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/343 "2008-09-30T05:36:48Z")
There is such a thing? Hell, I figured it was some sort of slang for something totally gross. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/344 "2008-09-30T16:02:18Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > And he got that wrong too: It was a Philly cheesesteak place. Not the same thing at all, as any resident of that fair city can (and vociferously will) tell you. Well, we all know what sort of slack-jawed yokels hang out in cheesecake shops, so he was right on. 😛 An interesting [editorial](http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/story/541124.html) in today’s rag by Michael Carey, who was the former Editor of the Anchorage Daily News. The editorial deals with Palin’s declining popularity, since she has thrown Alaskans under the bus with the troopergate stonewalling, and her williingness to abdicate her governorship to a McCain lawyer and a shrill McCain spokeswoman. Meanwhile, some members of the legislature have filed a lawsuit to quash the investigation, as has the AG, while all the while the McCain campaign is squealing about how a small pro-Obama demonstration in Anchorage “proves” that the investigation is biased (not too big of a logic stretch, eh?). So why are they so desparate to crush this thing? What is she hiding that hasn’t yet become public knowledge? Or is this just a very large indicator of how badly the McCain people are out of touch and how badly the wheels are coming off the campaign? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/345 "2008-09-30T16:17:15Z")
“desperate”. Shit. ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/346 "2008-09-30T20:47:23Z")
I have no idea where to put this link - this thread seems as good a place as any: [Laqueesha on the Debate](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o27nTE_39xk) ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/347 "2008-09-30T21:47:54Z")
> [@fessie](#): > > I have no idea where to put this link - this thread seems as good a place as any: > > [Laqueesha on the Debate](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o27nTE_39xk) OMG, that was hilarious! Thank you for sharing! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/348 "2008-09-30T22:23:26Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > An interesting [editorial](http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/story/541124.html) in today’s rag by Michael Carey, who was the former Editor of the Anchorage Daily News. The editorial deals with Palin’s declining popularity, since she has thrown Alaskans under the bus with the troopergate stonewalling, and her williingness to abdicate her governorship to a McCain lawyer and a shrill McCain spokeswoman. Meanwhile, some members of the legislature have filed a lawsuit to quash the investigation, as has the AG, while all the while the McCain campaign is squealing about how a small pro-Obama demonstration in Anchorage “proves” that the investigation is biased (not too big of a logic stretch, eh?). > > So why are they so desparate to crush this thing? What is she hiding that hasn’t yet become public knowledge? Or is this just a very large indicator of how badly the McCain people are out of touch and how badly the wheels are coming off the campaign? Another development: [Troopergate Witness Flips Like a Pancake](http://www.themudflats.net/2008/09/30/troopergate-witness-flips-like-a-pancake/): > [@](#): > > …Murlene Wilkes, owner of Harbor Adjusting Services, and holder of a $1.2 million/yr. contract with the State of Alaska to handle workers compensation claims, apparently told a big fat fib. When Branchflower asked her if the governor’s office had ever asked her to deny a workers compensation claim for Palin’s ex-brother-in-law Trooper Mike Wooten (the trooper in “Troopergate”), she said no. Never. Really… > > Problem is, that there are actually honest people in the world….and one of them works for Murlene Wilkes at Harbor Investments. This unnamed worker made a little phone call to the tip line that Branchflower set up at the beginning of the investigation. According to the tipster, yes indeed, the governor’s office DID put pressure to deny the claim. > > Hard evidence contradicting sworn testimony has a certain effect on people. Murlene Wilkes, faced with this situation, decided to change her testimony according to a report in The Public Record. Now, with the little extra incentive of avoiding perjury charges, she has admitted that she **was** asked to deny the claim - **at the direct request of Sarah and Todd Palin** … (emphasis in original) ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/349 "2008-10-01T00:23:47Z")
Well, well, well. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/350 "2008-10-01T00:46:17Z")
Someone has forwarded this to the relevant people, just to be sure…right? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/351 "2008-10-01T01:09:04Z")
The desperation [cranks up](http://www.johnmccain.com/palintruthfiles/)! They’ve somehow tied Obama to partisanship in Troopergate. Note his photo on the right. There has to be something huge behind all this effort. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/352 "2008-10-01T01:26:52Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > The desperation [cranks up](http://www.johnmccain.com/palintruthfiles/)! They’ve somehow tied Obama to partisanship in Troopergate. Note his photo on the right. There has to be something huge behind all this effort. So do they think that Obama is a mastermind who _KNEW_ months in advance that Palin would be selected, and somehow arranged to have a bipartisan investigation launched? Man, that Obama is EEEVVvvilllllll lil lil lil ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/353 "2008-10-01T01:32:07Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So do they think that Obama is a mastermind who _KNEW_ months in advance that Palin would be selected, and somehow arranged to have a bipartisan investigation launched? Man, that Obama is EEEVVvvilllllll lil lil lil It’s the ears. They function as antennae to tune in the future, baby. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/354 "2008-10-01T01:38:29Z")
Or the librul conspiracy is so vast that every Republican on the planet is facing preemptive persecution. It’s like the Bush doctrine only with more terror! ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/355 "2008-10-01T02:39:07Z")
In another example of Ms Couric’s Gotcha-style journalism, tonight she ambushes Sarah with the question: What newspapers do you read? [“All of 'em.”](http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/30/palins-news/) Maybe she does read them all. Or every one that she comes across. One good thing, Sarah does seem to be speaking in mostly whole sentences now. She should do well in the debates. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/356 "2008-10-01T02:45:23Z")
Maybe she meant all of them in the rack next to the checkout at the grocery: National Enquirer, the Globe etc. Ask her about Elvis’ alien love child–I’ll bet she knows! ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/357 "2008-10-01T02:51:37Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > Maybe she meant all of them in the rack next to the checkout at the grocery: National Enquirer, the Globe etc. > > Ask her about Elvis’ alien love child–I’ll bet she knows! Well, she knows about love-children anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/358 "2008-10-01T03:09:29Z")
Palin was on conservative radio Hugh Hewitt show: > [@](#): > > HH: Governor, your candidacy has ignited extreme hostility, even some hatred on the left and in some parts of the media. Are you surprised? And what do you attribute this reaction to? > > SP: Oh, I think they’re just not used to someone coming in from the outside saying you know what? It’s time that normal Joe six-pack American is finally represented in the position of vice presidency, and I think that that’s kind of taken some people off guard, and they’re out of sorts, and they’re ticked off about it, but it’s motivation for John McCain and I to work that much harder to make sure that our ticket is victorious, and we put government back on the side of the people of Joe six-pack like me, and we start doing those things that are expected of our government, and we get rid of corruption, and we commit to the reform that is not only desired, but is deserved by Americans. All the Palin negativity is rooted in the fact that people are not used to Joe Six-Pack as VP candidate? Is that her new tack? Is that what she’s going to throw at Biden in the debate? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/359 "2008-10-01T03:10:46Z")
> [@Bearflag70](#): > > Palin was on conservative radio Hugh Hewitt show: > > All the Palin negativity is rooted in the fact that people are not used to Joe Six-Pack as VP candidate? Is that her new tack? Is that what she’s going to throw at Biden in the debate? Biden IS Joe Six-Pack. It explains the gaffes really well. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/360 "2008-10-01T03:26:10Z")
I don’t think the folks Palin’s talking about will appreciate being referred to that way. We like to think of ourselves as “average”, “blue collar”, or “working class”. Joe Six-Pack? That’s the fat guy in the wife beater watching Cops (or watching himself on Cops) and yelling at his kids. I think it’s insulting. It’d be insulting if Biden or Obama said it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856.md?page=19)