# Sarah turns opaque.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 16, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856 "2008-09-16T16:46:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/361 "2008-10-01T11:02:00Z")

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> [@Bearflag70](#):
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> All the Palin negativity is rooted in the fact that people are not used to Joe Six-Pack as VP candidate? Is that her new tack? Is that what she’s going to throw at Biden in the debate?

A while ago, I was going to make a post involving Palin and the term “Joe Six-Tooth.” Simpsons reference in case you didn’t catch it. I omitted it because I felt it was a bit insulting to Palin supporters. :dubious: I’m at a loss for words right now.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/362 "2008-10-01T13:45:53Z")

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> [@Bearflag70](#):
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> All the Palin negativity is rooted in the fact that people are not used to Joe Six-Pack as VP candidate? Is that her new tack? Is that what she’s going to throw at Biden in the debate?

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Huh. I thought it was 'cause she was a woman. I simply **must** update my address on the "current bullshit talking points memo" list.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/363 "2008-10-01T15:23:25Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> Maybe she meant all of them in the rack next to the checkout at the grocery: National Enquirer, the Globe etc.
> 
> Ask her about Elvis’ alien love child–I’ll bet she knows!

She knows squat about that, but thinks Obama is Bat Boy.

Article in today’s paper talking about Palin’s decline in approval ratings in Alaska. While the Pubbies still show a 93% approval of her, her percentages among Dems and Independent voters have nosedived from 16% to 24%. That still leaves her with an enviable 63% approval rating as governor (down from 80%), which baffles me. The reasons for poorer ratings have little to do with her VP candidacy and everything with her change to attack dog demeanor and abdication of the stewardship of Alaska to McCain puppets.

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/364 "2008-10-01T15:33:03Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> In another example of Ms Couric’s Gotcha-style journalism, tonight she ambushes Sarah with the question: What newspapers do you read?
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> [“All of 'em.”](http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/30/palins-news/)  
> Maybe she does read them all. Or every one that she comes across. One good thing, Sarah does seem to be speaking in mostly whole sentences now. She should do well in the debates.

Couric: “What magazines do you read to learn about the world around you?”

Palin: Oh crap they didn’t give me an answer for this. New York Times? No, too liberal. Wall Street Journal? No, people hate Wall Street. People Magazine, too shallow. Wasilla Fish ‘N’ Game Monthly? Too local. Damn damn damn… running out of time… aw crap…

Palin: “All of 'em!”

I’d love to hear how far Couric would have to go to get an actual answer out of Governor Mooselini…

Couric: “What kind of sandwich do you prefer?”

Palin: “All of 'em!”

Couric: “No favorites? What do you order at a restaurant?”

Palin: “Just slap some meat and cheese, maybe some lettuce and tomato between a couple pieces of bread and I’m happy!”

Couric: “Maybe a Club Sandwich then?”

Palin: “I’m not going to play ‘gotcha journalism’ with you Katie.”

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/365 "2008-10-01T15:36:03Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> her percentages among Dems and Independent voters have nosedived from 16% to 24%.

Come again?

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/366 "2008-10-01T15:37:58Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Come again?

They have dropped from the 80’s to the 60’s a 16 to 24 percent drop…

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/367 "2008-10-01T15:43:00Z")

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That is, “they have nosedived \<by an amount ranging\> from…”

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/368 "2008-10-01T15:46:39Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> That is, “they have nosedived \<by an amount ranging\> from…”

Ah, thank you.

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/369 "2008-10-01T15:51:40Z")

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Oh no. That can’t be right. McCain said today that she’s the most popular governor in the country. And of course she’s qualified for VP. He’s asked her for advice plenty of times, especially about energy policy, because she’s responsible for construction of that pipeline don’cha know.

He also defended his campaign ad about Obama advocating comprehensive sex education for kindergartners. “It’s true! I don’t know about this [factcheck.org](http://factcheck.org) but it’s true – read the bill, it’s in there.” He also tossed in a total non sequitur when the reporter asked him about running an honorable campaign, but I’ve forgotten what it was. Transcript will be up at [npr.org](http://npr.org) later today. He sounded really, really tired.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/370 "2008-10-01T16:55:04Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> That is, “they have nosedived \<by an amount ranging\> from…”

Yeah, sorry for the shorthand. I believe the article said her approval among Dems had dropped by 24% and among Independents dropped 16%.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/371 "2008-10-01T17:30:29Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> In another example of Ms Couric’s Gotcha-style journalism, tonight she ambushes Sarah with the question: What newspapers do you read?
> 
> [“All of 'em.”](http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/30/palins-news/)  
> Maybe she does read them all. Or every one that she comes across.

Well, we do know she has a passing familiarity with [\*The Economist](http://www.236.com/video/2008/sarah_palin_vlog_3_the_economy_9239.php)\*. 😛

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**Author:** ![Bambro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Bambro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambro)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/372 "2008-10-01T20:28:05Z")

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I know this is a Palin thread, but I didn’t think this McCain statement deserved a thread of its own (I may be wrong, but I also figured it has already been posted…you guys are pretty quick) 🙂

[http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/01/mccain-aspire-dictator/](http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/01/mccain-aspire-dictator/)

> [@McCain](#):
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> MCCAIN: I just want to make a comment about the obvious issue and that is the failure of Congress to act yesterday. Its just not acceptable. […] This is just a not acceptable situation. I’m not saying this is the perfect answer. **If I were dictator, which I always aspire to be** , I would write it a little bit differently.

[Another source](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/1/113549/026/765/616572),

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/373 "2008-10-01T21:21:50Z")

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Oh, good grief. Orrin Hatch referred to “Joe Six-pack” on Chris Matthews just now. Orrin Hatch, of all people.

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/374 "2008-10-01T21:44:52Z")

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> [@C3](#):
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> Oh, good grief. Orrin Hatch referred to “Joe Six-pack” on Chris Matthews just now. Orrin Hatch, of all people.

So what did he say?

We’re talking about _the_ Orrin Hatch, are we? The Orrin Hatch, Mormon Republican Senator from Utah? What could he possibly know about a six pack?

Of course, Orrin is a friend of Ted Kennedy so maybe some of Ted’s habits rubbed off on him over the years.

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/375 "2008-10-01T21:47:06Z")

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> [@Spartydog](#):
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> So what did he say?
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> We’re talking about _the_ Orrin Hatch, are we? The Orrin Hatch, Mormon Republican Senator from Utah? What could he possibly know about a six pack?
> 
> Of course, Orrin is a friend of Ted Kennedy so maybe some of Ted’s habits rubbed off on him over the years.

It’s a six-pack of God’s love.

Excuse me…

huuuuurrrrrrkkkkkk…hulk…hulk…hurrrrrrrkkkkkkk

Okay, better now.

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/376 "2008-10-01T21:48:32Z")

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> [@Spartydog](#):
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> Of course, Orrin is a friend of Ted Kennedy so maybe some of Ted’s habits rubbed off on him over the years.

In that case, it would have been: Joe Chivas, On The Rocks.

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/377 "2008-10-01T21:51:23Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> In that case, it would have been: Joe Chivas, On The Rocks.

Joe Cuervo was a friend of mine.

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/378 "2008-10-01T21:54:30Z")

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> [@Spartydog](#):
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> So what did he say?
> 
> We’re talking about _the_ Orrin Hatch, are we? The Orrin Hatch, Mormon Republican Senator from Utah? What could he possibly know about a six pack?
> 
> Of course, Orrin is a friend of Ted Kennedy so maybe some of Ted’s habits rubbed off on him over the years.

I just caught the end of it and he was talking about the financial crisis. He was saying something about how this would all affect “Joe Six-pack.” Nothing really related to what Palin was saying, but I guess they’re all going to try to throw the phrase into conversation for the next month. It was a bit incongruous coming from Hatch, though.

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/379 "2008-10-01T21:58:05Z")

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> [@C3](#):
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> I just caught the end of it and he was talking about the financial crisis. He was saying something about how this would all affect “Joe Six-pack.” Nothing really related to what Palin was saying, but I guess they’re all going to try to throw the phrase into conversation for the next month. It was a bit incongruous coming from Hatch, though.

Kind of reminds me of the Steve Martin bit where he’s trying to dance like a black guy.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/380 "2008-10-02T01:06:08Z")

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> [@Slacker](#):
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> Couric: “What magazines do you read to learn about the world around you?”
> 
> Palin: Oh crap they didn’t give me an answer for this. New York Times? No, too liberal. Wall Street Journal? No, people hate Wall Street. People Magazine, too shallow. Wasilla Fish ‘N’ Game Monthly? Too local. Damn damn damn… running out of time… aw crap…
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> Palin: “All of 'em!”
> 
> I’d love to hear how far Couric would have to go to get an actual answer out of Governor Mooselini…
> 
> Couric: “What kind of sandwich do you prefer?”
> 
> Palin: “All of 'em!”
> 
> Couric: “No favorites? What do you order at a restaurant?”
> 
> Palin: “Just slap some meat and cheese, maybe some lettuce and tomato between a couple pieces of bread and I’m happy!”
> 
> Couric: “Maybe a Club Sandwich then?”
> 
> Palin: “I’m not going to play ‘gotcha journalism’ with you Katie.”

Scary thing is, I was going to ask for a cite. :dubious:

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