# Sarah turns opaque. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 16, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856 "2008-09-16T16:46:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/381 "2008-10-02T01:16:10Z")
It would all be laughable if it weren’t so scary. This is the country that elected George Bush president _twice_.\*\* As Mencken said, “Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.” ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/382 "2008-10-02T14:16:50Z")
[It appears](http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/543414.html) that a judge will rule today on the attempt to quash the Troopergate investigation. Here’s hoping he doesn’t trash our constitution. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/383 "2008-10-02T17:22:41Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > What are these “trade missions” she references? To Russia? Like sending a boatload of mucklucs over to Siberia or something? > > I’m picturing some fucked up cantina in Moose Balls, Alaska, right on the Bering Strait where the rogues hang out to test their mettle on the Kessel run. > > These aren’t the Inuits you’re looking for. Apparently (but unsurprisingly), the “Trade Missions” answer was [another Big Lie](http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/the-odd-lies--1.html). ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/384 "2008-10-02T17:52:46Z")
I guess Matt Damon said Palin is like a bad Disney movie. Here is the comedy trailer for that movie… [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/reRTXJSyTjo/hqdefault.jpg "Sarah Palin Disney Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reRTXJSyTjo) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/385 "2008-10-02T19:09:34Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > Apparently (but unsurprisingly), the “Trade Missions” answer was [another Big Lie](http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/the-odd-lies--1.html). And the hits just keep on coming: [Sarah Palin blunders over talks with British ambassador that never took place as her first TV debate looms](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1066426/Sarah-Palin-blunders-talks-British-ambassador-took-place-TV-debate-looms.html) > [@](#): > > Sarah Palin has committed yet another political blunder after claiming she had held talks with a British ambassador - talks that never actually took place. > In an answer to questions about her foreign policy experience ahead of tonight’s make-or-break vice presidential TV debate, her aides listed numerous contacts with foreign officials - including Britain’s ambassador to Washington, Sir Nigel Sheinwald. > However the meeting never occurred… ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/386 "2008-10-03T04:32:08Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > [It appears](http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/543414.html) that a judge will rule today on the attempt to quash the Troopergate investigation. Here’s hoping he doesn’t trash our constitution. Well, [this bit of news](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/palin.trooper.investigation/index.html) is being swallowed up by all the attention on tonight’s debate, but it is significant news, nonetheless. > [@](#): > > **Subpoenas upheld in Palin trooper investigation** > > An Alaska judge refused Thursday to throw out subpoenas for members of Gov. Sarah Palin’s administration in the State Legislature’s investigation of her firing of her public safety commissioner. > > Anchorage Superior Court Judge Peter Michalski rejected a request by Palin’s Republican allies to shut down the investigation and ruled that the subpoenas were issued properly by the state Senate Judiciary Committee. > > . . . Woo Freakin’ HOO!! ---
**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/387 "2008-10-03T13:14:26Z")
Well that’s great to hear. A nice beginning to Friday. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/388 "2008-10-03T15:07:37Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > Well, [this bit of news](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/palin.trooper.investigation/index.html) is being swallowed up by all the attention on tonight’s debate, but it is significant news, nonetheless. Woo Freakin’ HOO!! Out-fucking-standing. I saw it in the paper this morning and let out a whoop. Thank god some part of our legal process still works. In more good news, I also see that the WDC judge in the Stevens trial won’t allow a mistrial. That could give grounds for appeal, however. I also see that there may be corruption charges brought against a former aide to both Murkowskis. Juneau is such a cesspool. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/389 "2008-10-03T16:55:40Z")
Well, it’s good to see she [has her confidence back](http://thepage.time.com/2008/10/03/palin-chats-with-fox-news/): > [@](#): > > Speaking with Fox News’ Carl Cameron, the VP candidate says some of Obama’s comments “in my world disqualify someone from consideration as the next commander in chief.” > > Claims Obama has said that U.S. troops in Afghanistan are “just air-raiding villages and killing civilians.” Adds: “That’s reckless.” > > Also says she is “annoyed” toward the media for being “clobbered” no matter what she says. Shows how just an itty bitty success can really go to someone’s head. :rolleyes: Of course, I’m sure Fox will be diligent in challenging her on these assertions… ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/390 "2008-10-03T18:00:14Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > Well, [this bit of news](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/palin.trooper.investigation/index.html) is being swallowed up by all the attention on tonight’s debate, but it is significant news, nonetheless. Woo Freakin’ HOO!! Todd refused to honor his subpoena, eh? The husband of the VP candidate being led off to the pokey would sure make my year. 😃 Memo to Sarah: You only can ignore the law after you’ve been elected. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/391 "2008-10-03T18:18:47Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Todd refused to honor his subpoena, eh? The husband of the VP candidate being led off to the pokey would sure make my year. 😃 > > Memo to Sarah: You only can ignore the law after you’ve been elected. “Oh gosh gee shucks Todd, I know yer in jail now; that sure is a pickle. Tell ya what, I can’t come down to getcha right now, ‘cause don’tcha know we’re middle class now and we just don’t have enough hard earned American money to spend on bail and such. Tell ya what, try to kill another prisoner your first day there. That way those folks’ll know ya as the serious guy ya are, and not as some blinkin’ liberal they can take advantage of. Ya gotta show 'em whose boss, babe! I gotta run - for some reason the the next president of this great country of ours scheduled a campaign stop for just the two of us in Belize. Talk to ya soon, babe. I love ya.” ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/392 "2008-10-03T18:45:44Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > “Oh gosh gee shucks Todd, I know yer in jail now; that sure is a pickle. Tell ya what, I can’t come down to getcha right now, ‘cause don’tcha know we’re middle class now and we just don’t have enough hard earned American money to spend on bail and such. Tell ya what, try to kill another prisoner your first day there. That way those folks’ll know ya as the serious guy ya are, and not as some blinkin’ liberal they can take advantage of. Ya gotta show 'em whose boss, babe! I gotta run - for some reason the the next president of this great country of ours scheduled a campaign stop for just the two of us in Belize. Talk to ya soon, babe. I love ya.” She and her husband are worth well over a million $$, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/393 "2008-10-03T18:47:37Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > She and her husband are worth well over a million $$, by the way. Shhhhhh… they’re MIDDLE CLASS. She told us so. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/394 "2008-10-03T20:10:15Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > Shhhhhh… they’re MIDDLE CLASS. She told us so. Well, they _used_ to be. I don’t take anything away from somebody who works for what they have and who makes it to a more comfortable level than their parents ever did. They’ve worked hard for their assets. I’m unapologetic for having far more than my own parents ever had. But I don’t pretend to be something I’m not. She can have bragging rights about where she came from, but to claim she’s still just one of the folks is pure political bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Rachm\_Qoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Rachm\_Qoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachm_Qoch)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/395 "2008-10-03T20:45:17Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Todd refused to honor his subpoena, eh? The husband of the VP candidate being led off to the pokey would sure make my year. 😃 > > Memo to Sarah: You only can ignore the law after you’ve been elected. Todd might testify after all, though probably not in time to make a difference in the Branchflower report. [http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/544566.html](http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/544566.html) > [@](#): > > Nearly a dozen state officials and the governor’s husband, Todd, have refused to honor subpoenas ordering them to testify in the Legislature’s investigation of what’s become known as Troopergate. They face the threat of possible jail time. > > Thomas Van Flein, the Anchorage attorney representing both Todd and Sarah Palin, watched the court hearing Thursday morning. He said in an interview immediately afterward that if the judge refused to throw out the subpoenas, he would expect Todd Palin to testify after all. > > “Short of appeal to the Alaska Supreme Court, which no one has talked about, I don’t see why we wouldn’t just have Todd testify,” Van Flein said after the hearing. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/396 "2008-10-04T00:46:25Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > She and her husband are worth well over a million $$, by the way. Do you have a cite for that? Because they don’t have enough income to raise five kids, give to charity, which they do (but surprisingly, at a very low rate for someone I’d expected to be a tither) and be worth that much money - unless their income for the past two years has been unusually low, or they have additional sources of assets, or they are really really frugal… [http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gp77q25DPCEibEdOBHWiKkz5EVWQD93J8ABG0](http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gp77q25DPCEibEdOBHWiKkz5EVWQD93J8ABG0) ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2008, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/397 "2008-10-04T00:54:54Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Do you have a cite for that? Because they don’t have enough income to raise five kids, give to charity, which they do (but surprisingly, at a very low rate for someone I’d expected to be a tither) and be worth that much money - unless their income for the past two years has been unusually low, or they have additional sources of assets, or they are really really frugal… > > [http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gp77q25DPCEibEdOBHWiKkz5EVWQD93J8ABG0](http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gp77q25DPCEibEdOBHWiKkz5EVWQD93J8ABG0) [Estimates show Palin assets top $1 million](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081002/ap_on_el_pr/palins_finances). ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2008, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/398 "2008-10-04T01:04:14Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Out-fucking-standing. I saw it in the paper this morning and let out a whoop. Thank god some part of our legal process still works. In more good news, I also see that the WDC judge in the Stevens trial won’t allow a mistrial. That could give grounds for appeal, however. I also see that there may be corruption charges brought against a former aide to both Murkowskis. Juneau is such a cesspool. Oops. Too soon for the happy dance. It was just on the news that it’s going to the state Supreme Court. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2008, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/399 "2008-10-04T01:27:39Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > [Estimates show Palin assets top $1 million](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081002/ap_on_el_pr/palins_finances). Thanks, I’ve been looking for that… ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/400 "2008-10-05T18:38:51Z")
So today we’re treated to an article about Todd Palin’s returning to the state to speak with an investigator about Troopergate. Not responding to the subpoena, mind you, which anybody with a brain would have complied with, but rather talking to a lawyer who is part of the Personnel Review Board over which Bible Spice has complete control. While here, he whored out his youngest daughter Piper yet again, presenting her on stage with him at a local Barbie rally that netted all of 300 people. Ah, those family values, doncha know. When the supremes uphold the superior court decision this week, which they are absolutely obliged to do or face the spectre of an out-of-control executive branch in the future, the investigative report will be issued on Friday as scheduled. Of course there will be immediate howls of outrage from the McCain campaign about bias, after not allowing anyone to respond to the subpoenas or to provide testimony which might have cleared up any fuzzy issues. I wait with breathless anticipation for the demands for resignation of the five legislators who felt it was just fine to try to subvert the state constitution in order to further their own careers in a future Mooselini White House. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856.md?page=21)