# Sarah turns opaque.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 16, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856 "2008-09-16T16:46:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/141 "2008-09-21T22:42:08Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, its tougher in Alaska, hence, more expensive. No roads, for instance. Wolf attacks. Moose romanticly afflicted by road graders. Stuff.

And without Palin, there’s nobody to stop those randy moose from having their sinful way.

This Palin thing isn’t working out for anyone. Well, I suppose it’s working for the moose.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/142 "2008-09-21T22:42:36Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> At 3.2 miles, that’s a gravel road costing 8.1 million dollars a mile.

Just imagine how much Palin’s hairdresser’s cousin’s brother-in-law is going to get to keep it plowed all winter.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/143 "2008-09-22T00:03:58Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Wolf attacks.

The airports get fogged in occasionally. Sometimes shipments of .223 are slow getting to the [Alaska Gun Store](http://www.alaskagun.com//gallery/preview.php?image=_331_Baer-Grendal-1.jpg), delaying wolf slaughter by days…

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/144 "2008-09-22T00:55:43Z")

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Not a single post defending Palin in the whole thread. I sense a massive Giving Up out there on Troopergate. Of course, they won’t be giving up on the TV news watchers. Those folks are tres foolable.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/145 "2008-09-22T01:06:57Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Not a single post defending Palin in the whole thread. I sense a massive Giving Up out there on Troopergate.

Why would any self respecting conservative want to step in to a bashfest like this. Nobody is here to have a rational discussion. Just a bunch of scared liberals. Trying to avoid discussing the issues by focusing on smear and shadow controversy.

Miss anything?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/146 "2008-09-22T01:09:34Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> Miss anything?

Yeah. That plank in your eye.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/147 "2008-09-22T01:18:51Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> Why would any self respecting conservative want to step in to a bashfest like this. Nobody is here to have a rational discussion. Just a bunch of scared liberals. Trying to avoid discussing the issues by focusing on smear and shadow controversy.
> 
> Miss anything?

What the fuck have you been drinking? The only things I’ve been posting are articles and op-ed pieces (aside from the occasional smart-ass remark). So where is the smear? It’s not shadows up here: it’s front and center deception, meddling in a man’s worker’s comp, and trying to destroy his career. Perhaps things are different down there in Cracker Holler.

The day will never come when I’m scared of a slack-jawed asshole like you or your idols on the right.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/148 "2008-09-22T01:19:58Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> Me too.
> 
> What I hope happens is that Palin tries to get away with the “Gwens”, and is stopped with a stony “It’s Ms. Ifle to you, Governor.” Truly this would be awesome and I might pee in my pants a little.

Nitpick: It’s Gwen **Ifill**. She’s a pretty serious journalist and I don’t think she’d let Palin get away with very much.

Robin

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/149 "2008-09-22T01:21:08Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> What the fuck have you been drinking? The only things I’ve been posting are articles and op-ed pieces (aside from the occasional smart-ass remark). So where is the smear? It’s not shadows up here: it’s front and center deception, meddling in a man’s worker’s comp, and trying to destroy his career. Perhaps things are different down there in Cracker Holler.
> 
> The day will never come when I’m scared of a slack-jawed asshole like you or your idols on the right.

Whoosh.

ETA: Damn. Caught a lot of people.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/150 "2008-09-22T01:21:32Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> Why would any self respecting conservative want to step in to a bashfest like this. Nobody is here to have a rational discussion. Just a bunch of scared liberals. Trying to avoid discussing the issues by focusing on smear and shadow controversy.
> 
> Miss anything?

Scared? When Palin is free falling in the polls? Here is what you need to worry about: People will now see that Republicans are ignoring a basic rule of law like subpoenas, and they see now that the possible future Republican administration is just the same as the Bush administration in this and other subjects.

“That’s Not Change We Can Believe In!” Even if that was a whoosh. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Linear\_Crack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Linear\_Crack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linear_Crack)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/151 "2008-09-22T04:30:30Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Not a single post defending Palin in the whole thread. I sense a massive Giving Up out there on Troopergate. Of course, they won’t be giving up on the TV news watchers. Those folks are tres foolable.

Gov. Sarah Palin is [awesome](http://news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080921/NEWS0107/80921022) and you all suck. 😉

The fuckwad, shitferbrains NoBama and loser [Biden](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ) team will have their ass handed to them in short order.

There. Just keepin the thread balanced.

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**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/152 "2008-09-22T04:59:01Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Scared? When Palin is free falling in the polls? Here is what you need to worry about: People will now see that Republicans are ignoring a basic rule of law like subpoenas, and they see now that the possible future Republican administration is just the same as the Bush administration in this and other subjects.

Yeah, that 60,000 who showed up in Florida is like a death knell.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/153 "2008-09-22T05:05:43Z")

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> [@Linear\_Crack](#):
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> Gov. Sarah Palin is [awesome](http://news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080921/NEWS0107/80921022) and you all suck. 😉
> 
> The fuckwad, shitferbrains NoBama and loser [Biden](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ) team will have their ass handed to them in short order.
> 
> There. Just keepin the thread balanced.

Wow, you’d think the stupidity of random Youtube commenters would stop amazing me, but no, the internet can still make me despair for the future of mankind. Dear God, the stupid, as people say, it hurts.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/154 "2008-09-22T05:24:06Z")

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> [@ArizonaTeach](#):
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> Yeah, that 60,000 who showed up in Florida is like a death knell.

As mentioned, care to defend her here in the subject at hand are are you incapable?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/155 "2008-09-22T05:52:30Z")

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> [@ArizonaTeach](#):
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> Yeah, that 60,000 who showed up in Florida is like a death knell.

I mean: As mentioned, care to defend her here regarding the subject at hand or are you incapable?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/156 "2008-09-22T05:55:48Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> [For your viewing pleasure](http://gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/09/sarah-palin-debates-tony-knowl.html).

I’m only a quarter of the way through it but so far it’s legitimately interesting. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/157 "2008-09-22T13:33:33Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> Whoosh.
> 
> ETA: Damn. Caught a lot of people.

Dang. I specifically came back in here this morning to apologize for my response. It was over the top and unnecessary.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/158 "2008-09-22T13:50:38Z")

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> [@ArizonaTeach](#):
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> Yeah, that 60,000 who showed up in Florida is like a death knell.

60,000 people from The Villages in Florida? A death knell? More like a death waiting list.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/159 "2008-09-22T14:09:43Z")

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> [@Linear\_Crack](#):
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> Gov. Sarah Palin is [awesome](http://news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080921/NEWS0107/80921022) and you all suck. 😉
> 
> The fuckwad, shitferbrains NoBama and loser [Biden](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ) team will have their ass handed to them in short order.
> 
> There. Just keepin the thread balanced.

I think the proper way to phrase it is: "Just keepin the thread **fair and** balanced.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-turns-opaque/463856/160 "2008-09-22T15:13:44Z")

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> [@Linear\_Crack](#):
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> Gov. Sarah Palin is [awesome](http://news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080921/NEWS0107/80921022) and you all suck. 😉
> 
> The fuckwad, shitferbrains NoBama and loser [Biden](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ) team will have their ass handed to them in short order.
> 
> There. Just keepin the thread balanced.

Careful: you might have to change your name to “vertical crack”. 😃

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