# SarahPAC Short-Bus Tour **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 28, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588 "2011-05-28T19:26:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/21 "2011-05-28T23:32:21Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Retort fail. > Too many polysyllabic words. You callin’ me a… wait… what ‘er you callin’ me?! ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/22 "2011-05-28T23:40:48Z")
A [duckface](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=610198)! ---
**Author:** ![Cort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/23 "2011-05-28T23:53:55Z")
> [@OMGABC](#): > > I’ve never understand some people’s hate for Palin. It’s as if she can do no right. Here are five reasons to hate Sarah Palin. I was originally going to do ten but I got bored. If you want more, just say so. The woman doles out so much ammunition that I could quite literally keep listing grievances until the heat death of the universe, safe in the knowledge that she would continue churning out meanspirited fuckwittery faster than any one person could possibly hope to catalogue it. To make it mildly challenging, I restricted myself primarily to things which made me hate her during the 2008 campaign. [ul] [li] She’s an egregious liar. Of the 46 statements scrutinised by the non-partisan [Politifact](http://politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/) project, 26% were rated ‘False’ while 8.69% were rated as brazen, ‘Pants on Fire’ lies. Now, you might say _“So she lies. Big deal. She’s a politician. And I’ll bet your liberal God-King Obama didn’t score too well, did he?”_. Well, no. He didn’t really. But in the truth telling stakes, he’s like George Washington compared to Palin. Of the 303 statements rated by Politifact, 17% were rated ‘False’ while a mere 1% were rated ‘Pants on Fire’ lies. Now, you could argue that Politifact itself is biased. But that’s a separate case for you to prove. You may also try and argue that Obama should be held to a higher standard of truth because he’s the President and Palin is just a pundit. IMO, that’s a horseshit argument. There is only _one_ standard of truth, and you either meet it or you don’t. And Palin is _far_ from a marginal political figure. She has a substantial following, is strongly rumored to be contemplating a Presidential run, and, moreover, made a great many of the statements rated by Politifact while campaigning alongside John McCain. So yeah. Reason number 1. She has a _terrible_ record for telling the truth.[/li][/ul] [ul] [li] On October 4th '08 she said that Barack Obama was “Palling around with terrorists.” Note the present tense. I’m no lawyer, but I think this meets the legal definition of slander. Hilariously, she attempted to corroborate her defamation by citing [this](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html) NYT article which actually concludes that Obama and Ayers had no working relationship of any sort at that time, proving that she’s either an idiot, or thinks everyone else is.[/li][/ul] [ul] [li] She rails against “Socialism” when it suits her, but she herself has implemented numerous policies which are unambiguously socialist in nature. For example, her great Wasilla legacy was a $14.7 million dollar hockey arena in a town with a budget of $20 million. The arena was paid for with a 0.5% sales tax [_increase_](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/03/us/politics/03wasilla.html?pagewanted=all), as well as a bond issue which Palin approved before the land had been secured, leading to a protracted legal mess that ultimately forced taxpayers to pay more than [six times](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122065537792905483.html) the original market price for property which the city ended up having to seize from a private citizen using eminent domain. [/li] As Governor of Alaska, she instituted a [windfall tax](http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008103325_alaskatax07.html) against local oil companies which saw every Alaskan receive a cheque for $1,200.00. Fast forward to the 2008 campaign and we hear Palin saying stuff like [this](http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/palin-pushes-jo.html): _"Senator Obama said he’s somebody who wants to spread the wealth, which means, which means he wants government to take your hard-earned money and dole it out however he sees fit. Now Joe [The Plumber] said to him that sounded like socialism. To me it sounds like real bad medicine for an ailing economy. And whatever you call it, Senator Obama will do to those who want to create jobs what shouldn’t be done, and we’re calling him on it.”_ This is a classic, textbook definition of sanctimonious, disingenuous, _do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do_ hypocrisy. The woman has no regard for internal consistency and will say whatever she wants, whenever it suits. [/ul] [ul] [li] She used $160,000.00 of campaign donations to buy clothes for herself and her family. Now, I don’t know how much money Barack Obama spent on clothes, but I _do_ know that Barack Obama never blasted his Republican opponents for being “Elitist”, or for being out of touch with the electorate. Now, your mileage may vary, but I think spending a hundred and sixty grand of other people’s money to buy yourself top of the line clothes when you could probably have gotten equally stylish garments for a tenth of the price if you’d just shopped around a little, is pretty damn elitist. It certainly doesn’t display the “common touch” which Palin and all the other self-styled right-wing enemies of elitism claim is so important.[/li][/ul] [ul] [li] She’s a creationist. A half-assed, somewhat wishy-washy creationist, but a creationist nonetheless. On page 217 of _Going Rogue_, she [writes](http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Sarah_Palin_Education.htm): [/li] > [@](#): > > " believed in the evidence for microevolution–that species change occurs incrementally over time. But I didn’t believe in the theory that human beings originated from fish that sprouted legs. I believed we came about through a random process, but were created by God. > > “But your dad’s a science teacher,” McCain’s adviser objected. > “Yes.” > “Then you know that science proves evolution.” > “Parts of evolution,” I said. "But I believe that God created us and also that He can create an evolutionary process that allows species to adapt. > The adviser winced. I had just dared to mention the C-word : creationism. But I felt I was on solid factual ground. Never had Dad or anyone else convinced me that the earth had sprung forth conveniently stocked with the ingredients necessary to spontaneously generate life; in fact, I thought that idea flew in the face of the evidence I saw all around. So as well as being an egregious liar, a slander merchant, a hypocrite, and an elitist clothes horse, she’s also a fucking idiot who doesn’t know how to weigh evidence. [/ul] Also, death panels. And blood libel. And about five hundred ethics violations. And all that mama grizzly marketing horseshit. And… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/24 "2011-05-29T00:49:47Z")
Part of the shock we get from the Malign Sarah is due to a enduring myth of populism being closely equivalent to progressive. One can be aggressively “for the people” and still be convinced that the only real Americans are ignorant and jingoistic rubes. Especially if one is such a person. And why it surprises us so, that she might insist on cutting the people of Alaska in on the profits. Why should we find that proposition so odd, that the people of a state, or a nation, are the true owners of its resources? Why would we imagine we owe some sort of deference to people who take what is ours and sell it back to us at a profit? Certainly they deserve a modest but reliable profit, but would we be remiss is we did not insist that they partake of of civic virtue,the stern and somber pride which swells in the heart of he who sacrifices what he holds dearest for his fellow Americans! In this case, money. What she did is only radical because nobody else much does it. I suggest that results from a mindset carefully fashioned for us, one we need not respect, a fit subject for sarcasm. Or, heck, who knows, maybe she just did it to hear the soprano porcine squeel when she squeezed their fiscal _cojones_. I could relate. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/25 "2011-05-29T02:54:22Z")
All that and she quit. People invested their time and money to get her elected and she just quit. She went after money and got it in piles. She is an opportunist who will walk over anybody for a dollar. She is the" quitinator". ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/26 "2011-05-29T05:02:09Z")
Seriously, America… you can do better. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/27 "2011-05-29T05:53:41Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > I’ve never understand some people’s hate for Palin. It’s as if she can do no right. Because she’s the Al Sharpton of downscale(I believe that’s the new term) Whites. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/28 "2011-05-29T14:51:11Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Because she’s the Al Sharpton of downscale(I believe that’s the new term) Whites. The Association of Weights and Measures Professionals would like to have a word with you regarding your rude, offensive and defaming terminology. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/29 "2011-05-29T16:51:28Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > You don’t understand it because you’re stupid. > > I hate to tell you this, but stupid people have trouble understanding things. This is perfectly normal. Just accept that the world rushing dizzyingly around you is being stewarded by people who can manage to take in what is going on. I know this is the pit, but this approach tends not to change people’s minds. **Omg a Black Conservative** , have you read Gov. Palin’s speech when she announced her resignation? I read it and read it and read it again and I could not figure out from that speech why she resigned. It’s bad enough she left her second, and only major, elected office - earning derisive nicknames like “the quitinator” - but she gave no coherent reason for doing so. I admit that most of the sentences parsed, but they did not form or support clear ideas. The POTUS must be able to talk people into supporting policies, often unpleasant policies. In what way is the team that produced Gov. Palin’s resignation speech ready to be in the White House? The the kicker for me is that the official printed version had sets of multiple explanation points. My emo 14 year old daughter no longer does so in her writing. Why should I support, or even respect, a grown woman who does so? The resignation speech is not even the latest problematic statement from Gov. Palin. She seems to crank them out in industrial quantities. “Death Panels”, “[Blood Libel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel)”, the untruthful moronic statements keep coming out of her mouth. It’s bad for a politician to shoot form the lip. It’s worse when said politician does so - says something of-the-cuff that is stupid, false, and highly offensive - but then does not apologize in any way for offending. Not even a “I’m sorry if anyone was offended”. Palin _defended_ her blood libel crack. If I hadn’t given up on Palin before that, I’d sure as moose-shooting have given up on her then. ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/30 "2011-05-29T17:13:30Z")
Is the guy in the bear costume actually part of the video? I can’t tell if it’s a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/31 "2011-05-29T17:25:41Z")
> [@Typo\_Knig](#): > > I know this is the pit, but this approach tends not to change people’s minds. I’ve read enough of OMG’s posts to know he has no intention of debating intelligently or changing his mind. So why not insult him? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/32 "2011-05-29T17:47:13Z")
> [@FloatyGimpy](#): > > Is the guy in the bear costume actually part of the video? > > I can’t tell if it’s a joke. Not a joke. The same video is on the SarahPAC website, bear and all. ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/33 "2011-05-29T18:00:10Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Not a joke. The same video is on the SarahPAC website, bear and all. That’s so weird. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/34 "2011-05-29T18:09:52Z")
Can you see the USSR from her bus? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/35 "2011-05-29T19:22:22Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > Can you see the USSR from her bus? Only if you use a time warp. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/36 "2011-05-29T19:32:54Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Only if you use a time warp. Again? It’s just a turn to the left… ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/37 "2011-05-29T19:41:25Z")
She should take her short bus for a long drive on a short pier. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/38 "2011-05-29T21:31:14Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Not a joke. The same video is on the SarahPAC website, bear and all. Its the whole “Mamma Grisly” thing. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/39 "2011-05-30T01:47:34Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Only if you use a time warp. I’m assuming her bus has some kind of hot tub. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588/40 "2011-05-30T02:46:05Z")
On her last bus tour, she would go off someplace . Then fly in when the bus got close to its destination, jump on and act like she had been on a long trip. She has such a sense of self entitlement. She panders to her base so much, that I do not know if she has any real beliefs of her own. She says whatever she thinks the Tea baggers want to hear. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarahpac-short-bus-tour/583588.md?page=3)