# "Saratoga moments" in movies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saratoga-moments-in-movies/384277>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 15, 2006, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saratoga-moments-in-movies/384277 "2006-12-15T13:46:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2007, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saratoga-moments-in-movies/384277/61 "2007-01-04T16:26:07Z")

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I don’t know if this counts, but Edward G. Robinson completed his last scene in Soylent Green, where his character commits suicide, just shortly before he died of cancer. So, he knew he was dying when he did his death scene.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2007, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saratoga-moments-in-movies/384277/62 "2007-01-04T17:27:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Cat Jones]  
I’m sure I once heard a clip of John Lennon with his saying something along the lines of “we’re safer saying these things as popstars than being politicians because politicians get shot”.  
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Not 100% on topic but a review of his _Double Fantasy_ album in (IIRC) Rolling  
Stone declared John Lennon to be dead, 2 months before he was shot. Yes the  
reviewer meant in a creative sense, but when I read the review in the library of my  
college 2 months after the shooting I was rather shocked, as I’m sure the reviewer  
was too once he heard the news of JL’s death.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saratoga-moments-in-movies/384277/63 "2007-01-04T22:08:34Z")

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I hope it’s Ok to revive this, but I was watching Judging Amy and in one of the eps leading up to Tyne Daly and Richard Crenna tying the knot she says they’re getting married in two weeks because they’re old and forever isn’t as long as it used to be. Richard Crenna unexpectedly died IRL before the characters married.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saratoga-moments-in-movies/384277/64 "2007-01-05T00:16:08Z")

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The Sci-Fi Channel ran a “Twilight Zone” marathon on New Year’s Eve. They included something I’d never seen before from the original shows: Rod Serling doing a little bit at the end where he delivers a verbal blurb of next week’s episode – and then does a little ad for the brand of cigarette he’s smoking.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saratoga-moments-in-movies/384277/65 "2007-01-05T00:17:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Baldwin]  
The Sci-Fi Channel ran a “Twilight Zone” marathon on New Year’s Eve. They included something I’d never seen before from the original shows: Rod Serling doing a little bit at the end where he delivers a verbal blurb of next week’s episode – and then does a little ad for the brand of cigarette he’s smoking.  
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Come to think of it, the idea of an actor giving a performance that’s a presentiment of his own death could have made a good “Twilight Zone” episode.

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**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saratoga-moments-in-movies/384277/66 "2007-01-05T00:44:12Z")

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[QUOTE=MilTan]  
This happened in _The Crow_, too. The remaining scenes were done by a stunt double. The ironic thing about this instance is that Brandon Lee played a character who was completely invulnerable, and the film featured several scenes where he gets shot repeatedly without dying. Lee, of course, died when he was accidentally shot during filming.  
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And of course Game Of Death has a subplot featuring Bruce Lee faking his death by getting shot while filming a movie, when a blank is supposedly replaced with a real bullet.

In addition to the standin with big sunglasses that Number mentioned they used a cardboard cutout of his face at one point (I think it was strapped to a double’s face, like a cheap mask, and you see him reflected in a mirror).

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saratoga-moments-in-movies/384277/67 "2007-01-05T01:50:58Z")

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Keith Moon camping it up in drag in **200 Motels** as the ODing nun. “It was the pills…I took so many of them!”

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**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saratoga-moments-in-movies/384277/68 "2007-01-05T06:45:58Z")

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The pilot episode of the ill-fated _Lone Gunmen_ series featured a plot concerning a government conspiracy to fly a plane into the World Trade Center. The episode ran a year before 9/11.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saratoga-moments-in-movies/384277/69 "2007-01-05T06:54:25Z")

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There was a short lived sitcom in the 1980s starring, IIRC, Robert Wagner, which also starred a young girl who’d became famous for writing the head of the Soviet Union and asking him why he wanted to blow up the world and then meeting him in the USSR. The TV show’s opening had a plane crash in it (since the mother of the family was supposed to have died in a plane crash). Shortly after the show started airing the girl was killed in a plane crash. (The network didn’t think to cut it from the opening before the next episode aired.)

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saratoga-moments-in-movies/384277/70 "2007-01-06T03:26:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Pixiesnix]  
The pilot episode of the ill-fated _Lone Gunmen_ series featured a plot concerning a government conspiracy to fly a plane into the World Trade Center. The episode ran a year before 9/11.  
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I remember seeing that one, and thinking how cool and exciting the special effects looked–a great debut for the Lone Gunmen series.

Now I think about it and get chills up my spine.

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