# sarcasm, name-calling and pit stuff **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 24, 2000, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216 "2000-03-24T11:40:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2000, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216/161 "2000-04-25T12:56:00Z")
That would not be the same thing bj0rn. In fact, it would be the exact opposite. Interpretation is done by the reader. If one single reader (out of a considerable group) mistakenly assumes no sarcasm when it was intended (or the other way around, har-dee-fucking-har), it is only fair to reason that said reader is indeed “at fault”, if such a term is even applicable. And please, don’t try to confuse us with using overstated sarcasm. You said you didn’t like sarcasm, therefore I assume you don’t use it, no matter how many emoticons you throw in. I will take all of your posts at face value, and as literally as possible. That’s what you always wanted, right? If you don’t remember the answer to that, re-read your own damn OP. ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216/162 "2000-04-26T10:05:00Z")
thank you coldfire…i hope you know there is more to this thread than the op…remember this? > [@](#): > > usage of sarcasm and irony at a personal level is accepted if the truth of the speaker attacked is not linked to him personally, thus attacking the truth aswell. but you are correct, i really do not use sarcasm. now, this time around i hope you are going to get it: i gave you two examples, both the examples are identical, the only differance is that one post includes sarcasm the other one doesnt. in both examples the reader misunderstands given text. first he fails to see sarcasm intended, then sees sarcasm where there isnt any. true that the examples are opposites, but its not the example that matters, its the reader and what he understands. got it? bj0rn - chickens for sale…! * * * (You know, I find it helps to copy it to WordPad and then fix all the punctuation errors, etc., so they’re not so distracting. Then I usually light some incense, sacrifice a chicken to the spirit of Kate Turabian, and get really drunk. Then it actually starts to make sense.) - notthemama ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216/163 "2000-04-26T14:46:00Z")
**Coldfire** , are you banging your head against a wall because it feels good when you stop? **bjOrn** will always think he is right, regardless of anything evidenciary to the contrary. Just give up - he’s a lost cause. Esprix * * * Evidently, I rock. [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216/164 "2000-04-26T14:52:00Z")
Test post ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216/165 "2000-04-26T16:00:00Z")
Do I detect a note of resignation here? At last? This guy will lead you around in a labyrinth that no one has yet solved. Bj0rn, do you make any sense at all in your native tongue, as opposed to English? Never mind. Don’t answer that. I don’t want to know. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216/166 "2000-04-26T19:10:00Z")
Hey, **Wally** , I tried to send you e-mail, but the address you have listed bounced back to me. Drop me a line at [esprix@aol.com](mailto:esprix@aol.com) so I can write back, ok? Thanks. (hmmm, think this’ll start rumors about us? :D) Esprix * * * Evidently, I rock. [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216/167 "2000-04-26T21:16:00Z")
Jesus, bj0rn. That made _no sense at all_. Esprix, I’m afraid you’re right. Nothing can convince our stubborn little Viking. I think my work here is done. No doubt, bj0rn will try to bait another response out of me (and others?)… I hope I can refrain. I’m obviously wasting my time. His schpiel seems to be to respond to a totally true and irrefutable post by adding yet another totally nonsensical post, thus fishing for more “WTF”-responses. Trolling, perhaps? Either that, or he’s even dumber than we all can imagine. Happy kake day, bj0rn. Coldfire - windmill is logic, so joint is pen and wooden shoes is spelling - aw, fuck it. ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216/168 "2000-04-26T21:24:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Coldfire - windmill is logic, so joint is pen and wooden shoes is spelling - aw, fuck it God, Coldy, I don’t know why, but that made me laugh my ass off! 😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216/169 "2000-04-26T22:01:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Coldfire - windmill is logic, so joint is pen and wooden shoes is spelling - aw, fuck it ROFLAO! 😃 Damn, that’s funny! ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2000, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216/170 "2000-04-27T10:08:00Z")
calling a speaker dumb because you didnt understand him is…well, dumb! and even though your post might have been true, it failed to see the truth in what it was replying to, thus not becoming truth in the given subject, but another subject entirely. bj0rn - bolludagur = kakeday! * * * (You know, I find it helps to copy it to WordPad and then fix all the punctuation errors, etc., so they’re not so distracting. Then I usually light some incense, sacrifice a chicken to the spirit of Kate Turabian, and get really drunk. Then it actually starts to make sense.) - notthemama ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2000, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216/171 "2000-04-27T10:17:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by bj0rn: > \*\*now, this time around i hope you are going to get it: > i gave you two examples, both the examples are identical, the only differance is that one post includes sarcasm the other one doesnt. in both examples the reader misunderstands given text. first he fails to see sarcasm intended, then sees sarcasm where there isnt any. > > true that the examples are opposites, but its not the example that matters, its the reader and what he understands. > > got it?\*\* **This** made no sense at all. Neither did your last post, which I shall not quote now because it is a 5 centimeter scroll away. Upwards. Do I have to explain _everything_ five fucking times? And stop talking about “truth” where we are merely exchanging opinions. It makes you look silly, having the most untrue opinion of them all. Wow, that last bit was almost genuine bj0rnese. Think he might get it? ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2000, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216/172 "2000-04-27T14:00:00Z")
**COLDFIRE!** **{SMACK!}** Stop it, damn you! I’m sorry, but it had to be done… Esprix * * * Evidently, I rock. [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarcasm-name-calling-and-pit-stuff/6216.md?page=8)