# Sasha Grey -- what's her appeal?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 30, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196 "2009-05-30T20:36:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/21 "2009-05-31T04:27:36Z")

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> [@mr.jp](#):
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> Now explain to me what the appeal is of fake boobed, run-of-the-mill sex super pornstar Jenna Jameson.

You say “run of the mill,” but the Jenna Jameson “style” of porn actress has gone the way of the dodo and hasn’t been popular since…well, Jenna herself.

In the past six or seven years, natural and “the girl next door” style porn stars have been MUCH more popular. Yes, there are still the ones who get fake tits, collagen for their lips, and put layer after layer of makeup on, but the more popular ones are the un-modified girls with minimal makeup (and in the case of some internet sites, such as Abby Winters (the owner of which used to be a regular poster here,) no makeup at all.)

And while Sasha certainly isn’t at the same level of intelligence that Asia Carrera is (God, we need another Asia so bad…Mensa member and internet gamer extraordinaire!), she does seem at least a few steps above the average porn star (ESPECIALLY Taylor Rain…I mean, I think Taylor is hot, but damn, she is one od the dumbest porn stars I’ve seen, unless it’s all an elaborate act.)

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/22 "2009-05-31T06:12:01Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Here’s a good SFW [picture](http://img-p.mrskin.com/data/_rp/00006634/posts/post_11670/sashagrey3.jpg) of her.

There’s “attractive” and “attractive for porn”. I hate to be one of “those guys” but the truth is that you can find dozens of far more attractive women in any mall in the world any day of the week.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/23 "2009-05-31T07:05:39Z")

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Not my cup of tea porn-wise, though I haven’t seen her “speaking roles”.

Alexis Texas is more of my ideal no-surgery porn star.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/24 "2009-05-31T08:55:53Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> There’s “attractive” and “attractive for porn”. I hate to be one of “those guys” but the truth is that you can find dozens of far more attractive women in any mall in the world any day of the week.

You’ve never been to the County Fair mall in Woodland California.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/25 "2009-05-31T09:05:29Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> You say “run of the mill,” but the Jenna Jameson “style” of porn actress has gone the way of the dodo and hasn’t been popular since…well, Jenna herself.
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> In the past six or seven years, natural and “the girl next door” style porn stars have been MUCH more popular.

Great trend. That and alt-porn (I love Joanna Angel) are the best things to happen to porn in a long time.

> [@bouv](#):
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> And while Sasha certainly isn’t at the same level of intelligence that Asia Carrera is (God, we need another Asia so bad…Mensa member and internet gamer extraordinaire!), she does seem at least a few steps above the average porn star (ESPECIALLY Taylor Rain…I mean, I think Taylor is hot, but damn, she is one od the dumbest porn stars I’ve seen, unless it’s all an elaborate act.)

Yeah. She is trying real hard to sound smart. But she is pretty smart (if not nearly as smart as she thinks she is). And by porn standards, she’s a genius. I kind of like the ambition to rise above the “material” (so to speak) while staying very dirty.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/26 "2009-05-31T11:40:57Z")

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Put me in the camp that thinks she is at best moderately attractive. She just doesn’t do it for me.

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**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/27 "2009-05-31T12:05:13Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> There’s “attractive” and “attractive for porn”. I hate to be one of “those guys” but the truth is that you can find dozens of far more attractive women in any mall in the world any day of the week.

I doubt it. Her face is pretty, but I agree not out of the ordinary. However, you really have to go by a pic of her body, not just a headshot. Most girls you see have a little too much fat on their body, and it’s very far between that you see a killer ass like hers with a slender waist.

NSFW picture. Blackboxed for NSFW adress.

[http://www.jizzgals.net/suze/sasha-grey-sc/12.jpg](http://www.jizzgals.net/suze/sasha-grey-sc/12.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/28 "2009-05-31T13:55:58Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Tawnee Stone - ultimate girl next door  
> Jenna Haze - seems like she _really_ enjoys her job  
> Taylor Rain - same as Haze

Man, I know what **Cisco** was doing online in the late 90s/early 2000s.

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**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/29 "2009-05-31T14:16:10Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Man, I know what **Cisco** was doing online in the late 90s/early 2000s.

lol

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**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/30 "2009-05-31T16:12:26Z")

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Link to Sasha Grey PGPorn episode _Roadside Ass-istance_ (Link broken just in case):

[http://w](http://w) w [w.spike.com/video/roadside-ass/3101845](http://w.spike.com/video/roadside-ass/3101845)  
Link to corresponding [interview](http://www.spike.com/video/sasahtology/3112200). (Should be technically SFW, but they are, y’know, talking about porn.)

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/31 "2009-05-31T16:28:35Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Man, I know what **Cisco** was doing online in the late 90s/early 2000s.

All you had to do was ask!

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**Author:** ![groo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecd19e/32.png) [@groo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/groo)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/32 "2009-05-31T17:04:35Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> You say “run of the mill,” but the Jenna Jameson “style” of porn actress has gone the way of the dodo and hasn’t been popular since…well, Jenna herself.
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> In the past six or seven years, natural and “the girl next door” style porn stars have been MUCH more popular. …
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> …

Why did I not ge the memo? You’re going on my list.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/33 "2009-05-31T17:34:09Z")

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> [@mr.jp](#):
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> Now explain to me what the appeal is of fake boobed, run-of-the-mill sex super pornstar Jenna Jameson.

10-12 years ago Jameson was super hot. Now, uh, not so much.

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**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/34 "2009-05-31T20:06:57Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> In the past six or seven years, natural and “the girl next door” style porn stars have been MUCH more popular. Yes, there are still the ones who get fake tits, collagen for their lips, and put layer after layer of makeup on, but the more popular ones are the un-modified girls with minimal makeup (and in the case of some internet sites, such as Abby Winters (the owner of which used to be a regular poster here,) no makeup at all.)

I think that’s what it is about Sasha that’s bugging me. With the sheer number of amateur vids that are out there, coupled with hearing more and more about Sasha and how she’s the biggest thing, it seems like she’s skirting the line between “amateur/girl next door” and “classic porn star” without being more of one or the other.

Yeah, she’s got a nice ass with that small frame of hers but she’s not as big as the second coming. Heh.

Also, I don’t want my porn actresses to sound smart. They are only around for my entertainment.

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/35 "2009-05-31T20:13:33Z")

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What? The second cuming?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/36 "2009-05-31T23:09:08Z")

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I’d never heard of the woman until I read press for _The Girlfriend Experience_, and out of curiosity did a bit of what the OP called “research” into her other work.

She’s cute-ish if somewhat unremarkable, fairly unspoiled-looking for porn, and apparently has a reputation for doing “everything.” Sadly, during my lifetime that term has expanded to include a number of acts that I find intensely unerotic.

At the risk of stepping on the toes of my fellow sophisticates, I confess that some of the fetishes that have recently entered the “mainstream”—e.g., urine drinking, bukkake, “throat gagging,” “ass-to-mouth”—seem like juvenile fantasies at best, and at worst, evidence of a growing cultural acceptance of casual sadism. When I see young women performing these acts, I generally don’t get aroused; I just feel really \*bad \*for them.

At some point my own tastes, which I’d once feared were perverse, became downright _conservative_.

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**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/37 "2009-06-01T09:01:55Z")

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Oh, another old cooter, who thinks _urine drinking_ isn’t sexy. Go back to the 1850s pls.

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**Author:** ![Mojo\_Pin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mojo\_Pin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo_Pin)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/38 "2009-06-01T09:28:26Z")

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I’ve been doing my homework on this one for…well a while, and her appeal to me (and the appeal of any other porn actor that I like) is when she does whatever she does to get off and then gets “the quakes”. Repeatedly. I really enjoy videos where the female actors seem to get some genuine pleasure out of it, and whether it’s just cause they’re better at faking it I don’t care, as long as it fools me. Case in point for the curious, an actress called Cytherea.

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**Author:** ![vandal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/858c86/32.png) [@vandal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vandal)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/39 "2009-06-01T18:40:51Z")

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I didn’t much care for her earlier work. I thought she was just this emaciated average looking porno chick. Over the years though, she’s really grown on me. And now, she’s among my top five porn actresses.

I think the things that do it for me are her (1) amazing ass on such a small frame, (2) natural breasts, (3) gives arguably the best BJ’s I’ve ever seen (call it childish, immature, whatever, but I’m all about the deep-throating and throat-gagging), and (3) she just looks like she loves to fuck.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sasha-grey-whats-her-appeal/498196/40 "2009-06-01T19:16:09Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> She seems really really really concerned with making people think she’s smart, and I think some people have fallen for it.

Yeah – I read the interview she did in The Onion in the last few weeks and to me she sounded like a typical 20-year-old worldbeater type that makes people who know her roll their eyes at how naive they are to think they can change the world. Five years from now she’ll probably shake her own head at how goofy she is today. But her drive is different than what we assume is the typical way someone gets into that business.

–Cliffy

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