# Satanic holiday display approved in FLA

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satanic-holiday-display-approved-in-fla/706325>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 4, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satanic-holiday-display-approved-in-fla/706325 "2014-12-04T17:50:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satanic-holiday-display-approved-in-fla/706325/81 "2014-12-09T20:08:28Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> We know. But the reason why you find it offensive is due to your own intolerance and hatred for beliefs other than your own.

No. It’s offensive because you use public property to spew your propaganda and grant yourself a privileged position. And obviously are unable to realize that people can resent it. They’re just intolerant trolls if they don’t smile when put up your shit on what is essentially their lawn.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satanic-holiday-display-approved-in-fla/706325/82 "2014-12-11T16:22:11Z")

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Interesting. I never expected one of MY threads to generate this much talk.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satanic-holiday-display-approved-in-fla/706325/83 "2014-12-11T16:27:45Z")

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> [@Hypno-Toad](#):
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> Interesting. I never expected one of MY threads to generate this much talk.

You started a thread about religion on the Dope and _didn’t_ expect a bunch of replies? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satanic-holiday-display-approved-in-fla/706325/84 "2014-12-11T19:02:21Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I agree with religions being treated equally, instead of privileging atheistic ones above the rest by removing all displays. But part of my ideas of being equal is that you can’t put up your display in order to offend.

Offense is in the eye of the beholder. If Satanists accept the Christian view that Satan fell out of heaven into hell, how is that offensive? Christianity, by claiming it is exclusively true, mocks other religions by its very nature. So do most religions. The First Amendment says that government does not make choices.

In any case, Satanists did not kill and torture my ancestors and drive them from their homes. Christians did. But I’m willing to be tolerant.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satanic-holiday-display-approved-in-fla/706325/85 "2014-12-12T21:10:11Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> We know. But the reason why you find it offensive is due to your own intolerance and hatred for beliefs other than your own.

No, it’s being tired of having those beliefs shoved in our faces and down our throats as if it’s the only natural and right set of beliefs, and anyone who differs is less of a citizen.

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> I agree with religions being treated equally, instead of privileging atheistic ones above the rest by removing all displays. But part of my ideas of being equal is that you can’t put up your display in order to offend.

But why does the government square need to be forum for anyone’s religious messages?

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> Those are the displays I object to. It’s not some hugely hypocritical idea that Christianity should be privileged. I would equally be against a Christian display that depicts Muhammad or shows obviously Jewish people crucifying Christ or Jesus killing the Flying Spaghetti Monster or whatever.

You do realize just how much effort it’s taken to get that concession out of christians in this country? They first objected to having menorahs next to the manger scene. The fight of separation of church and state is an ongoing battle to address the expectation of privilege by the christians of this country. You can argue over the relative worth of trivial things like “under God” in the pledge of allegiance and “In God We Trust” as the motto on our money and posting the Ten Commandments in courthouses, but those elements are there because of an inherent expectation of a privileged position by christians.

Christians feel like they are having their rights taken away - in most cases, they are not. They are having privileges above the rights of others taken away. That is what they fail to accept.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satanic-holiday-display-approved-in-fla/706325/86 "2014-12-12T22:50:14Z")

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> [@Aquadementia](#):
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> If there is a Muslim population in a community that want’s to put up a sign that says “Happy Ramadam” or something I think it would be trolling for a Christian group to insist it be accompanied by a “Jesus loves you” sign when there is no reason for it.
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> It is incredible backwards to celebrate them dumping on a holiday just because it’s Christian. Or would you be just as supportive if they went after minority religions like Sihks or Hindus?

You’re missing the point. There should not be any officially-sanctioned religious displays in the state capita _because it’s the government_.

It’s not dumping on a religion. It’s saying that religious displays shouldn’t be put up where laws are made, because that makes it appear that the state recognizes those religions.

Call me when churches in the US are forbidden by the government from putting up creches and living nativities on their own property, but Jews can have a dancing giant menorah tap-dancing in the front of the synagogue. \*That \*would be dumping on Christianity.

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