# Satan's 2nd Great General Council **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 18, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163 "2012-10-18T20:29:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/21 "2012-10-21T13:21:48Z")
Need a better hypnotist this time, as apparently at least one guy figured it all out. Maybe [Erickson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_H._Erickson#Hypnosis)? Or, if we don’t need that caliber, we could always throw in Freud, who would also aid in making everything more sexual. ---
**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/22 "2012-10-22T12:37:50Z")
I nominate[Carl Georg Munters](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Georg_Munters), who invented Styrofoam. It is a mess when used as packing material and has the same effect on me as nails on a chalkboard when I try to open a cooler. ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/23 "2012-10-22T15:13:56Z")
> [@DrumBum](#): > > I nominate[Carl Georg Munters](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Georg_Munters), who invented Styrofoam. It is a mess when used as packing material and has the same effect on me as nails on a chalkboard when I try to open a cooler. On that line of thinking my wife nominates [Sam Born](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Born), the inventor of Peeps, which will of course be available for dessert. ---
**Author:** ![ricksummon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ricksummon/32/3333_2.png) [@ricksummon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricksummon)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/24 "2013-09-19T22:45:00Z")
> [@Gedd](#): > > What food would be served? Well, obviously, the devil would serve chocolate cake, as part of his fiendish plot to make it known as “Devil’s Food”. The faithful, of course, know that chocolate is _theobromos_ — the food of **God.** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/25 "2013-09-20T23:43:51Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > He died? They’ve done a good job of keeping it out of the news. Cheney? He was not actually **born.** In fact, he attended Satan’s **First** Great General Council. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/26 "2013-09-20T23:45:21Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > As a co-conspirator to the moral destruction of the entire world, I must admit that following the rules isn’t at the top of my agenda. Hey, haven’t you read your Dante?! We’re doing Lawful Evil here! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/27 "2013-09-20T23:53:30Z")
Wagner, for lending intellectual respectability to nonreligious racial anti-Semitism. Nietzsche for providing the intellectual grounding for Nazism. Marx just for being a dogmatic arrogant prick. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/28 "2013-09-21T01:16:56Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Of course there was the Simpsons _Forbidden Donut_ episode in which Richard Nixon was allowed to serve on the jury of the damned even though he was still alive at the time because he owed Satan a favor. Actually that episode (actual title _The Devil and Homer Simpson_) has a pretty good lineup for the Council: Benedict Arnold Lizzy Borden Richard Nixon John Wilkes Booth Blackbeard the Pirate John Dillinger the 1976 Philadelphia Flyers. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/29 "2013-09-21T02:55:47Z")
Ted Kennedy - knows how to get away with murder. General William Tecumseh Sherman May-He-Rot-in-Hell - arsonist and war criminal. Osama bin Laden - promising rookie. ---
**Author:** ![Werekoala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7993a0/32.png) [@Werekoala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Werekoala)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/30 "2013-09-21T03:29:27Z")
Franklin Roosevelt - the man knows how to set up an undying bureaucracy that saps the life and will out of the general population while making everyone think it’s the best thing since sliced bread - cloying populist honey. Joseph Goebbels - you need a master of propaganda to make people actually WANT to eat that shit sandwich. Jim Jones - led true believers to the Kool Aid and actually made them drink. Although it’s hard to point the finger at any one person, those responsible for the [Prussian Education System](http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system) - mandatory, State-sponsored indoctrination that stultifies human creativity and intelligence to this day. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/31 "2013-09-21T06:54:08Z")
Satan’s closest competitor: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang\_Xianzhong](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Xianzhong) For people with hands-on experience in the field: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl\_Panzram](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Panzram) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar\_Dirlewanger](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Dirlewanger) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/32 "2013-09-21T21:58:16Z")
> [@Werekoala](#): > > Franklin Roosevelt - the man knows how to set up an undying bureaucracy that saps the life and will out of the general population while making everyone think it’s the best thing since sliced bread - cloying populist honey. :rolleyes: > [@Werekoala](#): > > Although it’s hard to point the finger at any one person, those responsible for the [Prussian Education System](http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system) - mandatory, State-sponsored indoctrination that stultifies human creativity and intelligence to this day. Linky no worky. But based on [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system) one, I don’t see what’s so bad about it. What, are you a [Montessori](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montessori) man? That’s defensible, but does not serve to demonize a more structured approach, and the Montessori system is only meant for the elementary-school level anyway. In an industrial society, students need to be trained to take their roles, and in most cases their roles will require regular work hours, taking orders, and turning in assignments on time. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/33 "2013-09-22T00:42:37Z")
> [@Werekoala](#): > > Franklin Roosevelt - the man knows how to set up an undying bureaucracy that saps the life and will out of the general population while making everyone think it’s the best thing since sliced bread - cloying populist honey. I’ll see your FDR and raise you a Ronald Reagan. Not only was old Ronnie every bit the bureaucrat as FDR, setting up the government to fail the poorest and neediest, but in doing so he empowered his friends in business and gave greed a good name. Roosevelt set up the government to help the meek, Reagan set it up to hurt the meek, and trick them into liking it. Its said the greatest trick the Devil ever played was to convince everyone he didn’t exist, well Reagan expanded the government while at the same time tricking everyone into thinking he shrunk it, and that it was good for them. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/34 "2013-09-22T04:16:35Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Ted Kennedy - knows how to get away with murder. :rolleyes: > [@Oakminster](#): > > General William Tecumseh Sherman May-He-Rot-in-Hell - arsonist and war criminal. 😃 Hurrah! Hurrah! We bring the Jubilee! ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/35 "2013-09-22T04:34:51Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > :rolleyes: > > 😃 Hurrah! Hurrah! We bring the Jubilee! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-dzCt2xeSo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-dzCt2xeSo) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/36 "2013-09-22T08:30:11Z")
Robert E. Heinlein. Satan will need a brilliant visionary, and let’s face it - Bob \*has \*to be in Hell. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/37 "2013-09-22T09:23:15Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Robert E. Heinlein. > > Satan will need a brilliant visionary, and let’s face it - Bob \*has \*to be in Hell. Is that R. A. H.'s brother? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/38 "2013-09-22T09:30:05Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Is that R. A. H.'s brother? Also his father, mother and son. Hey, he knows where he came from—but where did all you zombies come from? ---
**Author:** ![manila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@manila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manila)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/39 "2013-09-22T11:06:07Z")
Really? 38 posts and no one has reserved a few seats for Saul of Tarsus, Jesus or Mohammed? Visionaries, masters of propganda and tribal strife extraordinaires! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/satans-2nd-great-general-council/638163/40 "2013-09-22T12:39:06Z")
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