# Savage beating

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-beating/840405>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 17, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-beating/840405 "2019-09-17T21:54:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-beating/840405/161 "2019-09-22T19:42:51Z")

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How many guys would you have to rob to get a decent take when you’re splitting it eighteen ways?

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**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-beating/840405/162 "2019-09-23T14:24:01Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Isn’t that how most “hate crime” legislation work? I guess I’m not getting why this is a significant distinction.

In this thread, some people are complaining that the perpetrators were not charged with committing a hate crime. There is not a specific charge of hate crime in the state. People were stating that an assault with a hate crime component is two separate crimes. That is not the way the law works in a state where there is not a specific hate crime law.

Complaining that a prosecutor did not charge people with something that is not actually an offense under the law makes no sense.

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-beating/840405/163 "2019-09-23T21:15:25Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Again, I don’t think the real dispute in this thread is whether the legal criteria is met for a hate crime or not. I think people are simply asking that the same standard be applied to all races. If one immediately considers whites beating up blacks to be hate motivated, then it should be the same vice versa - and ditto if one does not rush to label blacks beating whites as a hate crime, either.

Why though? It is entirely possible for hate crimes to not be symmetrical. I’m not confident about race, but I would be shocked if Jewish on Christian hate crimes were proportionally comparable to the reverse.

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**Author:** ![johnod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@johnod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnod)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-beating/840405/164 "2019-10-03T16:21:26Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Again, I don’t think the real dispute in this thread is whether the legal criteria is met for a hate crime or not. I think people are simply asking that the same standard be applied to all races. If one immediately considers whites beating up blacks to be hate motivated, then it should be the same vice versa - and ditto if one does not rush to label blacks beating whites as a hate crime, either.

That is correct.

Doesn’t seem to be the way things are though.

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