# Savage? Yes. Barbaric? Probably. A Good Thing? DEFINITELY **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 1, 2002, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933 "2002-08-01T22:48:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/1 "2002-08-01T22:48:20Z")
[Crowd Beats Babysitter After Seeing Hidden Video](http://www.local6.com/orlpn/news/stories/news-158802320020801-080850.html). Complete with video! This, in my eyes, is a good start to the treatment of people who beat children. Better keep on running, biatch. ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/2 "2002-08-01T22:52:12Z")
“There’s no justice like mob justice.” ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/3 "2002-08-01T22:55:19Z")
Not a good thing. A media trial instead of a court trial is a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/4 "2002-08-01T22:59:41Z")
I don’t know how I feel about that, honestly. I figure if I saw the woman beating the kids, I trust my own eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/5 "2002-08-01T23:13:53Z")
In principle, I agree with you, **Giraffe**. But personally, if I saw someone beating a child, I reckon I’d kick their ass, given the opportunity. If it was _my_ child, they wouldn’t be walking away under their own power. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/6 "2002-08-01T23:34:26Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Giraffe_ > Not a good thing. A media trial instead of a court trial is a bad thing. But is it better than no trial at all? > [@](#): > > _From the link_ > He took the tape to local police but did not receive immediate help. So, he then delivered it to a TV station. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/7 "2002-08-01T23:48:17Z")
Seems justified to me. She feels tough slapping around a six-month-old baby, let’s see how she feels when she’s on the receiving end. I wish they had shown more of the nanny-cam footage, because while what they did show was obviously horrid, it didn’t look _brutal_, if you know what I mean. bella ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/8 "2002-08-01T23:58:54Z")
Also, watch the video on that website- they knocked the lady around some, but they didn’t beat her senseless or anything- she’s shown leaving the scene of the assault under her own power (running away). A good thing? I dont’ know, but I can’t say as I blame those people. Beating on two children too small to get away? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/9 "2002-08-02T00:08:40Z")
I’ve seen it with my own eyes, she deserved to get smacked around a bit. I agree 100% with you **Bella**. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/10 "2002-08-02T00:28:57Z")
Oh, if I caught someone beating my child, I’d kick their friggin’ ass. I think that’s a natural reaction. And, as long as I correctly assessed the situation, I would think justice was served. However, I think it’s dangerous to let individuals in full mama bear mode mete out justice. Mistakes happen. I’m not sad that the babysitter was hurt in this case. I just don’t agree with the idea that the way justice took place here is a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/11 "2002-08-02T00:31:30Z")
This appealed to the sick side of my sense of humore. kuydos to the dad for knowing his kids well enough to see somehting was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Caught\_Work](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Caught\_Work](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caught_Work)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/12 "2002-08-02T01:43:47Z")
I can’t avoid but dislike what the babysitter did. I am apalled by the actions of those who took justice into their own hands. That is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/13 "2002-08-02T02:53:42Z")
IMO one of the things we sacrifice in the USA is the right to take justice into our own hands. As much as the person might have “deserved” whatever happened to her, it does not make it the _right_ thing to do. Exceptions to due process and the law cannot be handed out to people who are “deserving.” That’s what our government and bill of rights is all about. _steps off of his red, white, and blue soapbox._ ---
**Author:** ![plain\_jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@plain\_jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plain_jane)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/14 "2002-08-02T02:56:28Z")
My computer won’t let me watch the video, but if that woman beat small children (I mean to say, if the nanny-cam makes that clear), then why the hell shouldn’t she get the same goddamn treatment? Maybe more people would think about their actions if they suspected the same thing would come right back at them. I mean, in her line of reasoning, if it’s okay for her to hit small children, why can’t someone her size hit her back? ---
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/15 "2002-08-02T03:59:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eonwe \* > \*\*IMO one of the things we sacrifice in the USA is the right to take justice into our own hands. As much as the person might have “deserved” whatever happened to her, it does not make it the _right_ thing to do. Exceptions to due process and the law cannot be handed out to people who are “deserving.” That’s what our government and bill of rights is all about. > > _steps off of his red, white, and blue soapbox._ \*\* Actually, this took place in Brazil. I doubt our Bill of Rights means much to them. After all, it’s not THEIR constitution. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/16 "2002-08-02T04:07:01Z")
Ah. Thanks **Lizard**. My bad for not actually reading the article. But I guess I’d say the same thing, assuming the Brazilian government also does not support vigelante justice. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/17 "2002-08-02T04:14:51Z")
That’s wonderful! Being able to kick a helpless woman in the face and then be applauded by the crowd for this heroic deed… Sure…that how justice should be administred…I saw it on TV, who cares about a trial seriouysly? Where can I apply to beat the shit out of her? Though reading this thread it seems it would be difficult to choose the appointed lynchers amongst so many volunteers… ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/18 "2002-08-02T04:26:36Z")
Methinks thou dost protest too much. The babysitter is going to trial with all limbs still attached, brain unharmed. Nobody suggested lynching. It is human nature to want to take a swing at someone who beats a kid - not necessarily good human nature. But, I think it is pretty normal. I still am not really sure what she did to the child, and I watched the video. What am I missing? ---
**Author:** ![Space\_Vampire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Space\_Vampire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Space_Vampire)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/19 "2002-08-02T04:35:55Z")
Everybody read the article and watch the video before you get all huffy. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933/20 "2002-08-02T04:41:11Z")
> [@](#): > > I am apalled by the actions of those who took justice into their own hands. That is wrong. Yet when Batman does it, it’s okay… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/savage-yes-barbaric-probably-a-good-thing-definitely/121933.md?page=2)