# Saving Grace, 7/23

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [July 24, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995 "2007-07-24T19:45:02Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author: ![jharvey963](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jharvey963](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jharvey963)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995/1 "2007-07-24T19:45:02Z")

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No Saving Grace thread yet? Well, then, here’s one…

I thought the show was pretty interesting. The acting was good, even though the situations might not have been that realistic:

Really, I mean, racing around in a cop car just for fun with 2 kids in the back seat?

I was also bothered a little by the overt religious “message”.

What do you think about this show?

J.

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### Author: ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2007, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995/2 "2007-07-24T22:01:30Z")

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After being bombarded by the promos for this show over the last month, I actually thought about watching it. For about 3 seconds. Then I turned to PBS.

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### Author: ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995/3 "2007-07-24T22:36:34Z")

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I watched it, and thought it was OK. I didn’t find her character that likable. And her being a cop made her lifestyle seem too unrealistic.

What a shame because the previews made it look like it had real potential.

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### Author: ![Fir\_na\_tine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fir\_na\_tine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fir_na_tine)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2007, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995/4 "2007-07-25T12:52:35Z")

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It was good enough to justify watching it for a few more episodes before making a final decision.

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### Author: ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2007, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995/5 "2007-07-25T13:04:27Z")

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I was forced to watch because a relative of mine is on the show. I thought it was OK.

I could have done without the religious messages, especially the implication that if you don’t believe in god you’re automatically a boozed up, sex crazed, short-fused violent lunatic (or a child rapist, since he didn’t believe in god either.)

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### Author: ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2007, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995/6 "2007-07-25T13:36:21Z")

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I liked the acting and the characters, and I’m intrigued by the “shared dream” thing with the inmate, but the goddy part…well, I think my feelings on that part are on record around here.

But I might be willing to stay with it if she sprouted a pointy tail and cloven hooves. Cage match! WooHOO!

Holly Hunter is one of my all-time favorites. But damn…she’s lost some weight!

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### Author: ![vertizontal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ad7895/32.png) [@vertizontal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vertizontal)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995/7 "2007-07-25T13:49:47Z")

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> I was also bothered a little by the overt religious “message”.

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> I could have done without the religious messages, …

But the religious message is the essential point and premise of the show, isn’t it?

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> …especially the implication that if you don’t believe in god you’re automatically a boozed up, sex crazed, short-fused violent lunatic (or a child rapist, since he didn’t believe in god either.)

I didn’t get the implication that the show was trying to preach like that, it just looked to me like it was telling one person’s story.

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> I didn’t find her character that likable. And her being a cop made her lifestyle seem too unrealistic.

Yeah, her behavior definitely seemed over-the-top.

It kinda bugged me that the angel’s name was Earl, which started me thinking about the other show “My Name is Earl”, in which a guy tries to become a better person, and I started thinking about the similar nature of these shows. It took me out of the show, because I was thinking about this stuff instead of paying attention to the story.

I’ll give the show a couple more tries. If it’s clever, I’ll stick around.

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### Author: ![Archergal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Archergal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Archergal)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2007, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995/8 "2007-07-25T15:47:16Z")

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You know, it seemed obvious to me that with the whole shared dream bit, God had staged the whole thing. I dunno, it just seems kinda crappy to me for God to be so manipulative.

And Earl’s wings? Jeezopete, that was hokey.

I wasn’t too impressed. And that’s a shame, cuz I really like Holly Hunter.

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### Author: ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2007, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995/9 "2007-07-26T11:17:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Archergal]  
You know, it seemed obvious to me that with the whole shared dream bit, God had staged the whole thing. I dunno, it just seems kinda crappy to me for God to be so manipulative.

And Earl’s wings? Jeezopete, that was hokey.

I wasn’t too impressed. And that’s a shame, cuz I really like Holly Hunter.  
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But will she continue to share dreams with the Lifer (Deather?)? Is he a regular character? Will he help her solve cases? I’m going to give it a couple more tries, but so far, it’s falling short of her “it’s unexpected” claims in the commercials.

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### Author: ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2007, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995/10 "2007-07-26T12:20:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Kalhoun]  
But will she continue to share dreams with the Lifer (Deather?)? Is he a regular character? Will he help her solve cases? I’m going to give it a couple more tries, but so far, it’s falling short of her “it’s unexpected” claims in the commercials.  
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I’m betting that one of Earl’s charges, but not necessarily the prisoner, will be worked into every episode.

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### Author: ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2007, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-grace-7-23/412995/11 "2007-07-26T12:35:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Don’t Call Me Shirley]  
I’m betting that one of Earl’s charges, but not necessarily the prisoner, will be worked into every episode.  
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Good guess! I bet you’re right!
