# Saving humanity from homosexuals is as important as saving the rainforest

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**Created:** [December 24, 2008, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476 "2008-12-24T00:16:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/1 "2008-12-24T00:16:12Z")

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[An interesting moral calculus.](http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/22/europe/23pope.php)

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> VATICAN CITY: Pope Benedict said Monday that saving humanity from homosexual or transsexual behaviour was just as important as saving the rainforest from destruction.
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> The Church “should also protect man from the destruction of himself. A sort of ecology of man is needed,” the pontiff said in a holiday address to the Curia, the Vatican’s central administration.
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> “The tropical forests do deserve our protection. But man, as a creature, does not deserve any less.”
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> The Catholic Church teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are. It opposes gay marriage and, in October, a leading Vatican official called homosexuality “a deviation, an irregularity, a wound.”
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> The pope said humanity needed to “listen to the language of creation” to understand the intended roles of man and woman. He compared behavior beyond traditional heterosexual relations as “a destruction of God’s work.”
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> Today in Europe  
> In Paris, the wish list for Christmas? Just a home2 Germans freed by kidnappers in Yemen return homeVatican embraces prayer book for the iPhoneHe also defended the Church’s right to “speak of human nature as man and woman, and ask that this order of creation be respected.”

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/2 "2008-12-24T05:21:31Z")

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“Dear God: Protect us from the people who believe in you.”

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/3 "2008-12-24T05:29:51Z")

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I’m going to keep on banging my head against the desk until the stupid goes away. Good plan, yes/no?

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/4 "2008-12-24T06:20:43Z")

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Is anyone surprised at this? Seriously? The only thing that surprises me is that the RCC ranks the environment almost as high as saving us all from Teh Ghey.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/5 "2008-12-24T06:22:56Z")

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There’s gotta be a good joke in there somewhere but I’m too tired to think of it.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/6 "2008-12-24T06:29:31Z")

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Surprised? Of course not. Just… sad. Frustrated. Fucking _bored_ with it.

I respectfully submit to the RCC that the world is full of real problems that they could maybe help with, if they’d get their heads out of their pants.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/7 "2008-12-24T06:52:41Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> There’s gotta be a good joke in there somewhere but I’m too tired to think of it.

Make sure you work in that the Pope wears a dress and wears a “funny” hat. Pssst: It’s shaped like a _PENIS!_

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/8 "2008-12-24T08:55:27Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> I’m going to keep on banging my head against the desk until the stupid goes away. Good plan, yes/no?

This is industrial strength stupid. Wear a helmet.

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/9 "2008-12-24T09:39:44Z")

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The day I get my moral compass from the leader of an organisation that not only was complicit in hiding and protecting paedophiles in its priesthood, but had the gall to issue a declaration telling the children molested that they hadn’t in fact committed a sin in the process of being raped, is (I hope) the day they check me into the psych ward.

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**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/10 "2008-12-24T09:49:04Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Make sure you work in that the Pope wears a dress and wears a “funny” hat. Pssst: It’s shaped like a _PENIS!_

It is a rather queer hat, now that you mention it.

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**Author:** ![Small\_Clanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Small\_Clanger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Clanger)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/11 "2008-12-24T10:10:11Z")

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Save us from “transsexual” behaviour? Men banned from screenings of _Mama Mia_? Eddie Izzard to wear trousers? What exactly does he have in mind here?

I just wish they hadn’t let a spokeswoman for _the holy father_\* on the [Today Program](http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/default.stm) otherwise I might have never heard about this. Like I give a toss what the sodding pope says.

\*who the frak talks like that? She used the phrase about four times

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/12 "2008-12-24T10:10:33Z")

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So an elderly dress-wearing bachelor and former Nazi who currently heads an insanely wealthy cult whch fronts for child molestors thinks we should strike a blow against homosexuality _because it’s morally wrong?_ Yeah, I’ll get right on that, Benny.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/13 "2008-12-24T13:18:36Z")

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Moving thread from IMHO to MPSIMS.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/14 "2008-12-24T13:41:23Z")

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So, maybe the evils of the world to be dealt with are prioritized something like:

1. Homosexuality

2. Contraception

3. Latin Americans turning Evangelical

4. Genocide

5. Environmental damage

I don’t know. I’m glad I left the Church, and also glad that your typical American Catholic doesn’t pay that much attention to the Pope anymore.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/15 "2008-12-24T13:44:13Z")

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Religion: the scourage of humanity.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/16 "2008-12-24T13:55:34Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Religion: the scourage of humanity.

Isn’t there something in Matthew about “whenever two or more are gathered in my name”? Not much need for hierarchy there. Most of the religious structures that are either holding progress back, or acting as excuses for terrible crimes, seem to have nothing to do with the original basis for their faith.

Right now, I’m glad my tiny girlfriend has some kind of spiritual faith, because it seems to be helping her deal with a loss. But I’m also glad she doesn’t let some church “authority” tell her what to do.

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/17 "2008-12-24T14:34:07Z")

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> "The pope said humanity needed to “listen to the language of creation” to understand the intended roles of man and woman. He compared behavior beyond traditional heterosexual relations as “a destruction of God’s work.”

[Link](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_animals) to Wikipedia.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/18 "2008-12-24T14:51:46Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> This is industrial strength stupid. Wear a helmet.

But then it doesn’t feel as good when you stop.

There’s a throwaway line in Stephen King’s book “The Running Man” when he mentions that in the dystopic future of the book, the Pope’s pronouncements are used as “lighter side of the news” comedy segments on TV. I believe we’re on our way towards that already.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/19 "2008-12-25T01:20:26Z")

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Ah, the good ol’ RCC, nothing beats comedy.

So, what’s next? Spanish Inquisition: Time to Burn Some Queers?

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**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saving-humanity-from-homosexuals-is-as-important-as-saving-the-rainforest/478476/20 "2008-12-25T02:05:18Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Today in Europe  
> In Paris, the wish list for Christmas? Just a home2 Germans freed by kidnappers in Yemen return homeVatican embraces prayer book for the iPhoneHe also defended the Church’s right to “speak of human nature as man and woman, and ask that this order of creation be respected.”

Just to make this thread a bit more MPSIMS’y, I love the above. Something like what would happen if William Burroughs and James Joyce bumped into each other in an office spilling their pages everywhere, and picked them up at random.

(And yeah, it’s awful how the rampant spread of homosexuality has meant that the population of the world has fallen so drastically in the past few decades …)

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