# Saw Star Trek: Nemesis last night. Any questions? \*SPOILERS\* (probably)

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**Created:** [December 11, 2002, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065 "2002-12-11T19:05:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/1 "2002-12-11T19:05:33Z")

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That’s it. Saw it last night at a preview. Wasn’t bad. Any questions about it?

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**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/2 "2002-12-11T20:47:30Z")

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Just one. Is it really the “last” TNG film or was it merely the “beginning of the their final journey” thereby implying at least one sequel? A simple answer sans explanation will do. 😉

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**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/3 "2002-12-11T20:56:37Z")

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The way it ends, I would fully expect a sequel.

Unless it flops at the box office. I mean, it’s no _Generations,_ but, thankfully, it’s no _Insurrection,_ either.

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**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/4 "2002-12-11T21:10:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by toadspittle \*  
> \*\*Unless it flops at the box office. I mean, it’s no _Generations,_ but, thankfully, it’s no _Insurrection,_ either. \*\*

Funny, I actually liked _Generations_ far \*_less_ than _Insurrection_… and I didn’t like _Insurrection_ much. _First Contact_ was the best STNG movie in my book.

So, my question is this: is _Nemesis_ as action-oriented as the trailers make it out to be? The trailers I’ve seen seem to be selling it as a rock-em, sock-em action film. Is it really like that?

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/5 "2002-12-11T21:13:17Z")

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Does this Remus thing make sense or add anything to the Trek universe or is it just a cheap add on?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/6 "2002-12-11T21:31:55Z")

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Spock was left on Romulus trying to get them to make nice.  
Is e mentioned?

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/7 "2002-12-11T22:40:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \*  
> \*\*Is e mentioned? \*\*

You know the rules on drug references 😃

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/8 "2002-12-11T23:54:07Z")

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Busted, dammit.

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**Author:** ![AveDementia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@AveDementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AveDementia)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/9 "2002-12-12T02:59:05Z")

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Who is Troi screwing in this movie?

It kinda looks like Captain Picard in the commercials, but I don’t even want to go there.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/10 "2002-12-12T03:42:29Z")

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Probably the clone guy, right?

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**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/11 "2002-12-12T15:09:52Z")

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> So, my question is this: is Nemesis as action-oriented as the trailers make it out to be? The trailers I’ve seen seem to be selling it as a rock-em, sock-em action film. Is it really like that?

As much as _any_ Trek film is. There do some pretty excellent stuff with the space battles in this one.

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> Does this Remus thing make sense or add anything to the Trek universe or is it just a cheap add on?

Cheap add-on. The Remans will be forgotten immediately after this film. But the whole thing does have significant impact on Romulan-Federation relations.

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> Spock was left on Romulus trying to get them to make nice.  
> Is e mentioned?

Nope.

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> Who is Troi screwing in this movie?

Riker. It’s a scene I really didn’t need to see.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/12 "2002-12-12T16:42:49Z")

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I’m there dude.

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**Author:** ![Legomancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/779978/32.png) [@Legomancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legomancer)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/13 "2002-12-12T16:48:09Z")

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Does Data sing? Please tell me there’s no singing.

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**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/14 "2002-12-12T21:09:23Z")

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> Does Data sing? Please tell me there’s no singing.

ummm…

stay home.

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/15 "2002-12-14T00:44:08Z")

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I just got back from a matinee…

☹

I’m going to be sad for a while. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/16 "2002-12-14T01:16:07Z")

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Woo… [Ebert](http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/wkp-news-startrek13f.html) was harsh.

Spot on about the whole Star Trek thing nowadays though. 😛

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**Author:** ![Erika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/47e85d/32.png) [@Erika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erika)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/17 "2002-12-14T01:18:53Z")

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**Achernar** I’m with you. :^( The last scene with B4 helped a little…but no, not really.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/18 "2002-12-14T01:33:22Z")

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Ebert works for the Chicago Sun Times. That’s why he did a spot on Early Edition. I love figuring things out five years later. Soon I will tell you who shot JR.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/19 "2002-12-14T01:37:13Z")

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Not him!

Dammit!

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**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saw-star-trek-nemesis-last-night-any-questions-spoilers-probably/142065/20 "2002-12-14T02:13:26Z")

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What **Smeghead** said.

Bastards.

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