# Say hello to Markus, America's first legal gigolo **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 25, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419 "2010-01-25T20:50:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/1 "2010-01-25T20:50:49Z")
[http://www.timesleader.com/news/ap?articleID=3683272](http://www.timesleader.com/news/ap?articleID=3683272) I give him a month before he seriously reconsiders his women-only policy. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/2 "2010-01-25T21:02:44Z")
Okay, is it just me or does that guy just not look right? ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/3 "2010-01-25T21:04:57Z")
I think he may be more lowland gorilla than human. ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/4 "2010-01-25T21:06:17Z")
So easy, even a caveman can do it! ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/5 "2010-01-25T21:12:18Z")
After reading that article, I have to say that business and sex make strange, uh, bedfellows in Nevada. ---
**Author:** ![BrandonR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@BrandonR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrandonR)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/6 "2010-01-25T21:50:26Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > [http://www.timesleader.com/news/ap?articleID=3683272](http://www.timesleader.com/news/ap?articleID=3683272) > > I give him a month before he seriously reconsiders his women-only policy. Especially after he sees the kind of women who can’t get laid without paying money. ---
**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/7 "2010-01-25T22:13:22Z")
> [@BrandonR](#): > > Especially after he sees the kind of women who can’t get laid without paying money. My wife and I were talking about this same thing. She said, “He better stock up on Viagra and have a good imagination because he’s gonna be servicing a lot of fat broads and old, rich widows.” ---
**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/8 "2010-01-25T22:30:48Z")
Hey, I’d hit that. With a big stick, while shouting "for gods sake, stop looking at me! And put a shirt on! ---
**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/9 "2010-01-25T22:33:22Z")
You know, that’s one thing I’ve always wondered about–why are there no legal male prostitutes in Vegas (who do service gay men)? There are plenty of illegal male prostitutes out there in the wide world, I’m pretty sure. Is it homophobia about AIDS? Is a place of legal prostitution too dangerous or seemingly open for the closeted types that must make up a fair proportion of customers? ---
**Author:** ![BrandonR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@BrandonR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrandonR)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/10 "2010-01-25T23:00:42Z")
> [@Tanaqui](#): > > You know, that’s one thing I’ve always wondered about–why are there no legal male prostitutes in Vegas (who do service gay men)? There are plenty of illegal male prostitutes out there in the wide world, I’m pretty sure. Is it homophobia about AIDS? Is a place of legal prostitution too dangerous or seemingly open for the closeted types that must make up a fair proportion of customers? [Nitpick] Actually, [no prostitution is legal in Vegas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Nevada). [/Nitpick] The article does say that until recently, there was a hurdle: > [@](#): > > While not illegal under Nevada law, it was not clear how a male prostitute would meet the requirement to submit weekly cervical specimens which are examined for sexually transmitted diseases. That changed in December, but still, it could just be lack of demand. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/11 "2010-01-25T23:03:54Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > I give him a month before he seriously reconsiders his women-only policy. I picture him hawking customers on a Vegas street less than a month later with a sign reading “Will Work For Back Shaves”. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/12 "2010-01-25T23:40:11Z")
I thought there was no such thing as a “former Marine”—? ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/13 "2010-01-25T23:55:13Z")
I know a couple of straight guys who are escorts for a gay male clientele. They got into it thinking they would get female clients, but first of all it just doesn’t happen very frequently, and secondly, the women who did contact them were horrifying. Of the three or so guys I know who do this, ALL of them prefer working with male clients. Being straight, once they’ve decided to work with male clientele, they’ve already crossed that line; they’re playing a role. At that point they don’t really distinguish between clients. But with women, they’re more likely to be grossed out when she’s gross. It’s easier for them to compartmentalize with male customers. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/14 "2010-01-25T23:59:42Z")
Jim Davis? Isn’t that the guy who draws _Garfield_? _scrubs resulting images out of mind with a wire brush_ ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/15 "2010-01-26T01:17:00Z")
I’m just shocked to see that this is new. I figured this was already going on in Nevada. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/16 "2010-01-26T01:32:25Z")
I was surprised to see these quotes in the article: > [@](#): > > He has been criticized by female counterparts for not being willing to have sex with men. > … > A 22-year-old prostitute at Angel’s Ladies [n.b. a competing brothel] named “Cuddles” said Markus’ unwillingness to see gay males makes the Shady Lady seem sexist and discriminatory. Her brothel services women. Do female prostitutes in Nevada typically service male _and_ female customers? ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/17 "2010-01-26T02:04:11Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > I know a couple of straight guys who are escorts for a gay male clientele. They got into it thinking they would get female clients, but first of all it just doesn’t happen very frequently, and secondly, the women who did contact them were horrifying. What does that mean, horrifying? As if the johns using female prostitutes are anything to write home about… > [@](#): > > But with women, they’re more likely to be grossed out when she’s gross. It’s easier for them to compartmentalize with male customers. Gross? Have you seen some of the men who walk down any street USA lately? I highly doubt the female prostitutes are finding their male clientele sexy/attractive etc. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/18 "2010-01-26T02:14:47Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > What does that mean, horrifying? As if the johns using female prostitutes are anything to write home about… > > Gross? Have you seen some of the men who walk down any street USA lately? I highly doubt the female prostitutes are finding their male clientele sexy/attractive etc. :dubious: He’s talking about the penis. It won’t work with gross females. Trust me on this one. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/19 "2010-01-26T02:32:36Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > What does that mean, horrifying? As if the johns using female prostitutes are anything to write home about… > > Gross? Have you seen some of the men who walk down any street USA lately? I highly doubt the female prostitutes are finding their male clientele sexy/attractive etc. :dubious: If you read for comprehension, you’ll see that I made the distinction that when the clientele is not one’s favored gender, you’ve already compartmentalized it as a non-sexual experience. It’s just a job, like scooping elephant poo or digging a ditch. It’s harder to do that when the client is your preferred gender. IANAE, I’m reporting what the male escorts I know have told me. To a man, the straight ones are more comfortable working with men. It more clearly delineates the line between work and pleasure. And the fact that almost any chick can get laid if she wants too–guys are a lot easier to pick up and take home than women are–it seems not entirely impossible to me that the women who have no alternative to hiring an escort are probably the, uh, more aesthetically challenged than men who can’t get laid. Most men will fuck anything; most women not so much. That creates an imbalance in the marketplace, if you will. Do the math. Anyway, that’s the theorizing me and my escort friends have come up with. So of course it may well be wrong. In any case, while the dork in the linked article may not say in a public interview that he’ll take male clients, trust me. The dude takes male clients. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419/20 "2010-01-26T02:34:09Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > I was surprised to see these quotes in the article: > > Do female prostitutes in Nevada typically service male _and_ female customers? Women don’t tend to hire escorts at anywhere near the rate that men do. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-hello-to-markus-americas-first-legal-gigolo/526419.md?page=2)