# "Say it to my face." Obama baiting McCain?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 9, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195 "2008-10-09T17:50:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/81 "2008-10-11T00:58:53Z")

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GOPerdammerung = Gotterdammerung, which is a new movie, “Twilight of McCain” in which he admitted that Obama is a good and decent man.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/82 "2008-10-11T01:11:23Z")

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Il Sciocco = The Fool, although I may have the definite article wrong. I can never keep straight when you use “lo” and when you use “il”. (Just checked it online…I got it wrong)

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/83 "2008-10-11T02:04:56Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> It was when he picked Palin for his running mate. The early adulation, the sudden realization, the sinking feeling in the pit of the stomach, the dread of impending catastrophe, the manic denials. Marvelous stuff.

Sounds like the seven phases of a project:  
[ol][li]UNCRITICAL ACCEPTANCE[/li][li] WILD ENTHUSIASM[/li][li] DEJECTED DISILLUSIONMENT[/li][li] TOTAL CONFUSION[/li][li] SEARCH FOR THE GUILTY[/li][li] PUNISHMENT OF THE INNOCENT[/li][\*] AWARDS AND ACCOLADES FOR THE UNINVOLVED[/ol]

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/84 "2008-10-11T05:57:36Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> They already wrote an opera about it. La Traviata is about a dying whore.

This would be written by Giuseppe Confezione da Sei, correct?

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/85 "2008-10-11T06:29:27Z")

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[quote=“tomndebb, post:83, topic:467195”]

Sounds like the seven phases of a project:  
[ol][li]UNCRITICAL ACCEPTANCE[/li][li] WILD ENTHUSIASM[/li][li] DEJECTED DISILLUSIONMENT[/li][li] TOTAL CONFUSION[/li][li] SEARCH FOR THE GUILTY[/li][li] PUNISHMENT OF THE INNOCENT[/li][li] AWARDS AND ACCOLADES FOR THE UNINVOLVED[/ol][/li][/QUOTE]

In which phase does the hurricane destroy New Orleans?

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/86 "2008-10-11T06:46:42Z")

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[quote=“tomndebb, post:83, topic:467195”]

Sounds like the seven phases of a project:  
[ol][li]UNCRITICAL ACCEPTANCE[/li][li] WILD ENTHUSIASM[/li][li] DEJECTED DISILLUSIONMENT[/li][li] TOTAL CONFUSION[/li][li] SEARCH FOR THE GUILTY[/li][li] PUNISHMENT OF THE INNOCENT[/li][li] AWARDS AND ACCOLADES FOR THE UNINVOLVED[/ol][/li][/QUOTE]

I´m so stealing that.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/87 "2008-10-14T18:18:51Z")

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Looks like it’s going to be a [throwdown.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/mccain-at-wednesdays-deba_n_134506.html)

I hope McCain will bring up Ayers if only to see what Obama does with it. Obama wouldn’t challenge McCain unless he has some clear plan in mind.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/88 "2008-10-14T18:31:43Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> Looks like it’s going to be a [throwdown.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/mccain-at-wednesdays-deba_n_134506.html)
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> I hope McCain will bring up Ayers if only to see what Obama does with it. Obama wouldn’t challenge McCain unless he has some clear plan in mind.

To call him out on running a “dishonorable” campaign and get him to lose his temper over that.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/89 "2008-10-14T18:55:04Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> Looks like it’s going to be a [throwdown.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/mccain-at-wednesdays-deba_n_134506.html)
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> I hope McCain will bring up Ayers if only to see what Obama does with it. Obama wouldn’t challenge McCain unless he has some clear plan in mind.

I think [this](http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/republicans-who.html) will be sufficient:

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> But Obama’s best response, after telling the facts of the relationship, is to point out who else supported him. Republican machers Walter and Leonora Annenberg gave the former terrorist _$50 million_. They also gave money to Rick Santorum, Strom Thurmond and Mitt Romney. Annenberg was Nixon’s ambassador to Britain. If Obama is “palling around with terrorists,” the Republican Annenbergs are _funding_ them.
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> Yesterday, the McCain campain put out a press release boasting that Leonore Annenberg had just endorsed him for president. Why is McCain happy to accept the endorsement of a funder of terrorism?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/90 "2008-10-14T19:45:13Z")

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Thank God he’s so fucking stupid.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/91 "2008-10-14T20:07:01Z")

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Obama did not say “Say it to my face.” He was misquoted. He was actually saying [this.](http://www.lyricsdepot.com/monty-python/sit-on-my-face.html)

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/92 "2008-10-14T20:26:29Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Obama did not say “Say it to my face.” He was misquoted. He was actually saying [this.](http://www.lyricsdepot.com/monty-python/sit-on-my-face.html)

That’s how I frequently misread this thread title.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/93 "2008-10-14T20:52:47Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> Looks like it’s going to be a [throwdown.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/mccain-at-wednesdays-deba_n_134506.html)
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> I hope McCain will bring up Ayers if only to see what Obama does with it. Obama wouldn’t challenge McCain unless he has some clear plan in mind.

If McCain were in a horror movie, he’d be the first fool going down to the basement alone. If he brings up Ayers, he’s a bigger fool than I ever thought.

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**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-it-to-my-face-obama-baiting-mccain/467195/94 "2008-10-14T21:35:07Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> If McCain were in a horror movie, he’d be the first fool going down to the basement alone. If he brings up Ayers, he’s a bigger fool than I ever thought.

If he were in a sitcom, he wouldn’t need a laugh track

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