# Say something that is true to a person in 1985 that will make you sound like a crazy person

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 20, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283 "2022-07-20T20:59:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![GESancMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gesancman/32/2923_2.png) [@GESancMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GESancMan)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/462 "2023-02-19T22:43:12Z")

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The way I remember, it’s “after Christ / devil comes.”

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/463 "2023-02-20T17:50:39Z")

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Ozzie got a lot of attention in The United States when he was arrested for publicly urinating on The Alamo while wearing a dress in 1982.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/464 "2023-02-20T21:48:13Z")

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Wait, are all you people talking about the husband of reality TV star **Sharon Osbourne**?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/465 "2023-02-20T22:24:52Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> are all you people talking about the husband of reality TV star **Sharon Osbourne**?

Are you talking about the mother of television personality, singer, actress, model, and fashion designer **Kelly Osbourne**?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/466 "2023-02-20T22:33:54Z")

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Ozzy… he’s the portable computer guy, right?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/467 "2023-02-21T04:09:52Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> > [@msmith537](#):
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> > are all you people talking about the husband of reality TV star **Sharon Osbourne**?
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> Are you talking about the mother of television personality, singer, actress, model, and fashion designer **Kelly Osbourne**?

Madness!!

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**Author:** ![pirviii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pirviii/32/3233_2.png) [@pirviii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pirviii)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/468 "2023-02-21T04:28:01Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Are you talking about the mother of television personality, singer, actress, model, and fashion designer **Kelly Osbourne**?

Are you talking about the sister of TV personality and host Jack Osbourne?

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/469 "2023-02-21T05:32:03Z")

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A ~~mediocre~~ male athlete can declare themselves to be female to compete in women’s sports.

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/470 "2023-02-21T06:15:43Z")

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Somehow I don’t think someone from 1985 would be unfamiliar with the concept.

[https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5406/j.ctt18j8xsf](https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5406/j.ctt18j8xsf)

This article discusses gender testing in sports. With examples going back to 1936.

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**Author:** ![TRC4941](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trc4941/32/6792_2.png) [@TRC4941](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TRC4941)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/471 "2023-02-21T15:00:25Z")

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It would sound as crazy to me in 1985 as it does now!

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/472 "2023-02-21T16:14:32Z")

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Are you talking about one of the owners of Bella, cover model of Dog Magazine in 2018?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/473 "2023-02-21T20:51:11Z")

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> [@pirviii](#):
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> > [@Riemann](#):
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> > Are you talking about the mother of television personality, singer, actress, model, and fashion designer **Kelly Osbourne**?
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> Are you talking about the sister of TV personality and host Jack Osbourne?

[Oh right! The guy who used to do that reality travel show on A&E a few years back on with his dad!](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6z1hmp)

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/474 "2023-02-22T01:11:36Z")

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A short story magazine had to close submissions because it was getting too many stories from artificial intelligences.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/475 "2023-02-22T01:16:15Z")

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I like this one because I think someone in 1985 would totally believe this was a problem we’d have in the 21st century, but 100% misunderstand _why_ its a problem. Like, if you’d told 1985 me this would be a problem, I’d entirely assume “anti-robot prejudice” was the issue.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/476 "2023-02-22T01:57:45Z")

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Yeah, pretty much.

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**Author:** ![pirviii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pirviii/32/3233_2.png) [@pirviii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pirviii)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/477 "2023-02-22T03:41:52Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> A short story magazine had to close submissions because it was getting too many stories from artificial intelligences.

Are they not good, or just because AI?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/478 "2023-02-22T04:06:06Z")

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Moderating:

> [@Projammer](#):
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> A ~~mediocre~~ male athlete can declare themselves to be female to compete in women’s sports.

It’s okay to make a claim along these lines, but you have phrased it in a transphobic way, describing a trans man as “a mediocre make athlete who declares they are female”

Please try to be less hostile to potential trans readers in your phrasing.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/479 "2023-02-22T04:12:46Z")

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And writing as a poster, you’d be wrong. There was quite a lot of press coverage about male-to-female trans athletes in the late 70s. In particular, [Renee Richards](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards) was in the bed when she competed in 1976 in the US open (tennis). I’m not sure the conversation has changed very much since then, especially regarding sports.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/480 "2023-02-22T13:46:05Z")

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At one point the world’s greatest rap artist was white and the world’s greatest golfer was black!

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-something-that-is-true-to-a-person-in-1985-that-will-make-you-sound-like-a-crazy-person/968283/481 "2023-02-22T16:11:43Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> In particular, [Renee Richards](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards) was in the bed when she competed in 1976 in the US open (tennis).

No wonder she lost.

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