# Say whaaatttt??? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 4, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343 "2009-02-04T01:32:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343/61 "2009-02-04T19:45:12Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Yeah, surprisingly, a guy who apologizes and shows some understanding of what’s going on is better thought of than a guy who posts incoherently and then starts posting as a sock. So far all I see is the patern troll, troll, troll, apologize I’m just a dumb old man don’t mind me. Troll, troll, troll, apologize… I know you are on the job and it hasn’t gone far enough for you guys yet. It will take a lot for me to change my mind. ---
**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343/62 "2009-02-04T19:47:02Z")
> [@Cuckoorex](#): > > Oh, also, care to comment on this? > Troll, troll, troll your boat…OK, maybe at best he’s like the Walter Mitty of the boards. I honestly think it’s more what \*\*choie \*\*said: > [@](#): > > he’s certainly an all-round charmer. You’ve come across the type IRL. Based on his apology post, I’d say he’s been trying on a persona. I think he’s now discovered that it’s not much liked. Let’s see if he changes; I think he will. But then I’m an optimist. I’ve always thought that the word ‘troll’ is thrown about here far too much. Sometimes - perhaps often - it’s justified. But it’s sometimes it’s just shorthand for ‘I don’t like this guy.’ ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343/63 "2009-02-04T19:51:44Z")
Personally, I’d like to hear more about the wife who doesn’t mind when he “brings broads home to screw”. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343/64 "2009-02-04T19:54:38Z")
There’s not much new under the sun with regard to trolling, it’s true. If somebody apologizes and then immediately returns to their old ways, that’s different: we haven’t seen that here. We give people the benefit of the doubt when we can. After his first day on the board I was thinking **stucky** wasn’t going to be here very long, but we can wait. I don’t think **choie** ’s post requires any comment or action, really. I read most of those posts earlier, and I’m not just taking his comments on faith. It’s not impossible to be a retired cop and a former miner. Most of the other posts look like jokes and not actual biographical claims. The jokes were mostly crass, the masturbation one in particular, and they didn’t make anybody laugh, but failed jokes aren’t the same thing as trolling. I gave him a note for a post in MPSIMS that **choie** didn’t mention and I think he got the message. People sometimes make a bad first impression here and turn things around. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343/65 "2009-02-05T00:29:14Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > There’s not much new under the sun with regard to trolling, it’s true. Not going to ModCon’09 then? ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343/66 "2009-02-05T03:02:59Z")
I think a good rule of thumb that would avoid a lot of these problems is simply to stay out of a pit for your first few months of posting. As he seems to feel that the Dope is filled with foul mouthed people who’ve spent a lot of time insulting him and calling him a Troll. But i doubt he’s seeing much of that in any MPSIMS sorta threads. All he’s describing is the usual MO of the Pit, and the Pit Demons that live in here… I think more Newbie Posters should try to build a solid reputation over a month or two before even really trying to post in the Pit, if they want to be taken more seriously. I remember it was something like 3-4 months before I could even really address anyone in the Pit, because I was so intimidated by the denizens in here. It’s a whole 'nother breed of Dopers in here. And even then, I try to actually stay out of Pittings and prefer just my usually random comment here and there or my own opinions or interpretation, nothing that goes directly against another Poster or such. The Pit can be a scary place, and not the best starting point for many a new Doper. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343/67 "2009-02-05T03:49:33Z")
> [@Cuckoorex](#): > > So **stucky** gets to stay but **jessesheeran** is still banned. We’re on BizzaroDope. **Jessesheeran** was around for nearly a month, and seemed to be getting worse. **Stucky** has been here a few days. As **Marley** says, we can wait. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343/68 "2009-02-05T03:51:17Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > And do many of them start out insta-trolling, or have their years of lurking given them some vague insight about how to write a post? Can’t have it both ways - if he’s familiar enough with the board to have formed negative opinions about some of the users, he’s familiar enough to know how the Pit works and has no need for all this mock-shock. Good point. I still think if everybody didn’t get all worked up, it wouldn’t be as much as a perceived problem when posters like this come along. There’s a five letter acronym for it, but I can’t seem to recall what it is off the top of my head… ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343/69 "2009-02-05T04:55:42Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Yeah. Sorry I spoiled the next issue for you. AAAAAAAAAAAAH. Now what am I gonna do? Sorry if my comment came across as snarky, it was by no means my intent. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343/70 "2009-02-05T14:08:07Z")
> [@Sapo](#): > > Not going to ModCon’09 then? No, I’ll be there. I need to see the new “Knock it off.” ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343/71 "2009-02-05T14:27:42Z")
I wouldn’t bother. I’ve heard it’s basically just the old “Don’t do this again” in a different color. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343/72 "2009-02-05T14:33:30Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Neat. I liked you first, Mister Man! You cock-a-doodle-doo. You dirty bird. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-whaaatttt/484343.md?page=3)