# Say What You Like About Hillary's Politics...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 14, 2008, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524 "2008-02-14T00:17:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/1 "2008-02-14T00:17:08Z")

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Her campaign has brought one positvie aspect to the 2008 Presidential Race - the almost complete absence of “news” stories and media scrutiny of candidates’ wives.

Every other presidential race has been rife with stories about whether so-and-so’s wife will make the right kind of First Lady. Is she a good mom? Is she well-groomed? Is she too much or not enough of a “traditional” helpmeet? Did we get lots of picture of her visiting pre-schools? Oh My God - look at her hair!

Heh. Someone starts this now, they’ve got to compare the wives to Bill, and that’s a real problem, any way you cut it.

It’s only a small relief, but I’ll take any that I can get during an election year.

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**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/2 "2008-02-14T01:08:25Z")

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Oh, it’s only February. I expect them to start with that business soon enough. They’re just not used to having anything newsworthy going on this late in the primary process.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/3 "2008-02-14T01:14:11Z")

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Very true. It’s a long election race. There’s tons of time.  
In my opinion, the race needs to be a lot more like a sprint and less of a trial of marathons.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/4 "2008-02-14T01:19:21Z")

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Well, we did get some nice shots of Mrs. Kucinich and Mrs. Thompson, to spark some discussion of how those guys got so lucky … But not enough.

Hasn’t Michelle Obama had her share of couch time with Oprah already, though?

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/5 "2008-02-14T01:49:02Z")

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[This story](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/us/politics/14michelle.html?hp) (registration required) about Michelle Obama is front and center on the New York Times website today.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/6 "2008-02-14T02:29:53Z")

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It IS kind of nice that as of yet I have seen no “cookie recipe” coverage.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/7 "2008-02-14T02:48:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Zsofia]  
It IS kind of nice that as of yet I have seen no “cookie recipe” coverage.  
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But I SO do want to see former President Clinton’s recipe for cookies. Do you think they have bacon in them?

(Don’t they introduce former Presidents as President as a courtesy title. If Hillary wins do they get introduced as President and President Clinton?)

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/8 "2008-02-14T02:48:57Z")

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That was my thought - perhaps fried peanut butter, banana, and bacon cookies. Hell, I’d be first in line.

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**Author:** ![Runs\_With\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/278dde/32.png) [@Runs\_With\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runs_With_Scissors)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/9 "2008-02-14T03:53:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Dangerosa]  
But I SO do want to see former President Clinton’s recipe for cookies. Do you think they have bacon in them?

(Don’t they introduce former Presidents as President as a courtesy title. If Hillary wins do they get introduced as President and President Clinton?)  
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They have a dollop of white frosting on them.

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**Author:** ![Coil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Coil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coil)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/10 "2008-02-14T13:25:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Runs With Scissors]  
They have a dollop of white frosting on them.  
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😃 and :eek:

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/11 "2008-02-14T13:52:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Dangerosa]  
(Don’t they introduce former Presidents as President as a courtesy title. If Hillary wins do they get introduced as President and President Clinton?)  
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The use of “President” as a courtesy title, while distressingly common, is incorrect. A former president is properly addressed by his most senior former title other than “President.” Should Hillary win the office, they would properly be introduced as “President and Governor Clinton.”

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/12 "2008-02-14T17:19:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
The use of “President” as a courtesy title, while distressingly common, is incorrect. A former president is properly addressed by his most senior former title other than “President.” Should Hillary win the office, they would properly be introduced as “President and Governor Clinton.”  
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How are President and G.H.W. Bush introduced when they are in the same place? Has to have happened. Is Senior officially Vice-President Bush. Ambassador Bush?

Perhaps Hillary winning will at least force us to come to terms with the shocking improprity of saying “President Carter.”

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/13 "2008-02-14T17:42:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Dangerosa]  
But I SO do want to see former President Clinton’s recipe for cookies. Do you think they have bacon in them?

(Don’t they introduce former Presidents as President as a courtesy title. If Hillary wins do they get introduced as President and President Clinton?)  
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I prefer Presidents Clinton.

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**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/14 "2008-02-14T17:58:21Z")

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Cookies hell, I want his brownie recipe.

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/15 "2008-02-14T19:52:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Dangerosa]  
(Don’t they introduce former Presidents as President as a courtesy title. If Hillary wins do they get introduced as President and President Clinton?)  
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The Presidents Clinton?

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/16 "2008-02-14T19:57:47Z")

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[QUOTE=buttonjockey308]  
Cookies hell, I want his brownie recipe.  
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Peanut butter, bacon, white frosted “I did not inhale” brownies?

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**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/17 "2008-02-14T23:04:53Z")

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“The Presidents Clinton.” I liiiiike it.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/18 "2008-02-15T04:17:49Z")

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Elizabeth Kucinich didn’t get nearly enough coverage, if you ask me. Nor did she give us nearly enough UN-coverage. And Dennis wanted to share the love by starting a Cabinet department? Hell, start at home. Share the wealth, dude. 😃

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/19 "2008-02-15T05:07:12Z")

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Obviously the OP didn’t see the _Daily Show_ story on [FLILFs.](http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?searchterm=flilf&search_title=Search+Results&x=15&y=11)

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/say-what-you-like-about-hillarys-politics/437524/20 "2008-02-15T05:24:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Airman Doors, USAF]  
Elizabeth Kucinich didn’t get nearly enough coverage…  
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Agreed. Neither did [Fred Thompson’s wife](http://darwen.us/darrell/blographics/070711b.jpg).

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