# Saying Hot Chick = Being A Misogynist Asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 7, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925 "2018-09-07T04:12:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/342 "2018-09-10T07:15:35Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I also suspect, given the large amounts of time that frequently passes between my larger posts and her responses, that she spends hours and hours painstakingly constructing her Frankenstein-like revisions of my posts. Were you willing to be as imaginative and dishonest as **Kimstu** is, and willing to devote as much time to working up your rejoinders, I suspect you (or any of the board’s posters) could post in a similarly equanimous way. You flatter yourself. More likely, she’s off doing something like working for a living like an adult human being. The notion that she is spending “hours” thinking about your words is laughable and sad. You aren’t that important to any of us. Again, you are so invested with being the good guy in your own life story that you’ve constructed a defense mechanism around yourself rather than admit that you have been an asshat more than once in your life. If it wasn’t so entertaining to watch you flail I’d ignore you, but it provides a moment of amusement now and again. You’re the past, and your kind is slowly dying out. Again, all the women who have posted here have been unanimous that you’re a misogynist asshole, and no small number of the men as well. Yet you persist in claiming you represent the “truth” - sort of like the no-longer-heard-from “Moral Majority” which was neither moral nor ever a majority. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/343 "2018-09-10T07:15:39Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Why do you think you’re the only person spewing this crap? You’re right? I think you may need to rethink your position on this subject. Cause you’re wrong buster. Thanks. I’m glad we got that cleared up. And “buster?” :D:D:D > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > And guess what? Those two 17yos are laughing at the old geezer trying to act _cool_ Nah! Their eyes light up and they hug me when they see me at Walmart, in a restaurant, or otherwise out and about. They engage me in conversation should they pull up next to me at a stoplight, and they shout “Drive safe!” as I wave and turn off when the light changes. I really like these guys and I relate to them as I was once very much like them. They pick up on that and like me in return. > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > ETA have they asked you to buy them some beers yet? No. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/344 "2018-09-10T07:22:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Careful, lest you force me to post not only penisfeelings but penisbehavior. Oh, great - what, you’re going to whip it out on the table? We _know_ you own a penis (or perhaps the other way around), you don’t have to prove it. What, do you think we’ll all swoon? We’ve seen dicks before, they’re nothing special. > [@](#): > > But it’s just plain stupid for you to have missed what I’ve posted twice now, which is that I’ve become close to this kid. We’ve known each other for close to a year and have become good friends. He is not a mere acquaintance. \*\>cough\< \*HOW good of friends are you, exactly…? You’ve gone from “misogynist asshole” to “skeevy”. > [@](#): > > Perhaps you might want to pick up a dictionary and investigate the meaning of “misogyny.” It doesn’t mean “anything that any woman somewhere doesn’t like.” It requires such things as hatred, contempt, mistrust for, or prejudice against, women…i.e., the feeling that they’re inferior. Stating that women were somehow happier in the 1950’s when they could be legally paid less for the same work, legally fired for getting married or getting pregnant, could not take out credit in their own name, could not purchase real estate without a male co-signer, and so forth IS demeaning and contemptuous. Saying that women who disagree with you are “brain-washed” shows that you think they are incapable of knowing their own minds i.e. “inferior”. You are condemned by your own words. Calling a woman a “hot chick,” or stating, as this boy did, “I’d hit it!” is not misogyny, just like a woman talking about some cute or hot guy she saw is not misandry. Such comments about women are actually a compliment in the eyes of the men who make them, and to most of the men who hear them. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/345 "2018-09-10T07:22:20Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I also suspect, given the large amounts of time that frequently passes between my larger posts and her responses, that she spends hours and hours painstakingly constructing her Frankenstein-like revisions of my posts. Were you willing to be as imaginative and dishonest as **Kimstu** is, and willing to devote as much time to working up your rejoinders, I suspect you (or any of the board’s posters) could post in a similarly equanimous way. Fanfiction about real people is frowned upon ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/346 "2018-09-10T07:29:43Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Actually, the world was a much more peaceful place prior to the ascendancy of liberalism. Ah, the halcyon days of pre-liberalism, when men were real men, women were real women, and paper towel tubes were real paper towel tubes. A time when what happened between a college football coach and a 12 year old stayed in the locker room. It really, really cheers me up knowing that you’re old. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/347 "2018-09-10T07:42:01Z")
Anyone else surprised that Starving Artist is apparently [over 300 years old](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_liberalism#Early_history)? I never knew. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/348 "2018-09-10T07:45:37Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > You flatter yourself. > > More likely, she’s off doing something like working for a living like an adult human being. The notion that she is spending “hours” thinking about your words is laughable and sad. You aren’t that important to any of us. I’m important enough to her that I can’t post in any but the most innocuous threads around here without having to contend mostly with her. To call her a stalker would be putting it mildly. Further, I’d agree that she likely doesn’t spend hours “thinking” about my words in the context your remark implies. But it would of necessity take a good deal of time to construct the endless cut-and-paste jobs she does on my posts and to concoct the ridiculous nonsense she attributes to me via her Frankenstein-like reconstructions. > [@Broomstick](#): > > Again, you are so invested with being the good guy in your own life story that you’ve constructed a defense mechanism around yourself rather than admit that you have been an asshat more than once in your life. I am a good guy in my own life. Anyone who knows me IRL would tell you that. I have to adopt an asshole persona here because assholism is all I get and have gotten from my first day on this board, maybe even my first post. Even at that however, I’m far less assholish than my opponents here. How many times have I said “fuck you” to someone here. Or called them an “asshole,” or told them to “shut the fuck up?” How many times have I insulted someone’s age (or their genitals, lol)? Etc, etc. Even the assholisness I have to adopt to get my points across here is far less assholish than the treatment I receive. > [@Broomstick](#): > > If it wasn’t so entertaining to watch you flail I’d ignore you… I’ve sometimes felt the board should pay me to post here. There always seems to be lots of views and clicks whenever I show up. > [@Broomstick](#): > > You’re the past, and your kind is slowly dying out. So I keep hearing. My experiences with the young guys I mentioned and the young women I work with seem to belie that. Time will tell I suppose. > [@Broomstick](#): > > Again, all the women who have posted here have been unanimous that you’re a misogynist asshole, and no small number of the men as well. > Yet you persist in claiming you represent the “truth” - sort of like the no-longer-heard-from “Moral Majority” which was neither moral nor ever a majority. I’m a conservative on a board of hyped-up liberals. I’m ALWAYS against almost everyone in every thread I post in. You and **iiandyiiii** and anyone else who feels the numbers I’m up against here are proof that I’m wrong need to get outside your bubble. My Facebook feed alone contains a greater number of women simpatico with my views than the number opposing me in these threads. And a fair number of them are young to boot I read recently that something like only 26% of the country identifies as liberal. And this is after 50 years of fevered agitation. So I wouldn’t be so confident that once conservative Boomers die out it will be all peace and love in leftie-land. Even France, Germany, Great Britain and Sweden have their troublesome conservative factions, (which are growing by the day these days in response to too much liberal dingbattery for too long a period of time, which always seems to happen with leftist countries who inexplicably choose not to keep their populaces sufficiently liberal at the point of a gun). ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/349 "2018-09-10T07:50:02Z")
I’m still trying to wrap my head around the notion that SA is besties with a couple of 17yr old boys. I really hope he is delusional, and thinking that them giving him a ‘Hey’ at the mall, or a ‘Take care’ at the traffic intersection means they are chums forever. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/350 "2018-09-10T08:04:42Z")
> [@kambucta](#): > > I’m still trying to wrap my head around the notion that SA is besties with a couple of 17yr old boys. Congratulations! You’re getting to be more like **Kumstu** with each new post! But once again, kindly post if you will the exact words I said which led you to believe I stated that these guys and I are best friends. My best friend in reality is a 66-year-old liberal woman with whom I’ve been friends since we were in our early to mid teens (her early, me mid). ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/351 "2018-09-10T08:05:55Z")
Now, this has been fun and all, but the time has come when once again I must bid you adieu. I have a very busy day on tap tomorrow so it may be some time before I can gaze with amazement at what **Kimstu** has managed to construe from my posts tonight. I’ve almost gotten to the point where I look forward to seeing how she’s mangled my latest in much the same way I look at the news when I get up to see what Donald Trump has done now. Still, between the two, I think Trump is more honest. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/352 "2018-09-10T08:06:13Z")
This thread was sad a few pages ago. Now I think it’s cutting itself and listening to Emo music. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/353 "2018-09-10T08:15:02Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Congratulations! You’re getting to be more like **Kumstu** with each new post! > > But once again, kindly post if you will the exact words I said which led you to believe I stated that these guys and I are best friends. > > My best friend in reality is a 66-year-old liberal woman with whom I’ve been friends since we were in our early to mid teens (her early, me mid). SA, go back to 1950’s sitcoms PLEASE? I’m sure you can get them on cable TV over there. Seems you missed my ironic term ‘besties’. It doesn’t mean what you think it does nowadays. Just to enlighten you, in case you’re interested, ‘bestie’ now can encompass Kylie who cuts your hair at the discount hairdressers, to Wayne, your mechanic who fixed your car a few months ago, and Stuart who managed to get you the best possible tax return at HR Block. It can also of course apply to 17yr old kids who you think like you. Whatever rocks your rocks. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/354 "2018-09-10T08:22:07Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > This thread was sad a few pages ago. Now I think it’s cutting itself and listening to Emo music. So right. I’m going to wander off and cheer myself up with a Dory Previn/Leonard Cohen duet. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/355 "2018-09-10T08:46:56Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’m important enough to her that I can’t post in any but the most innocuous threads around here without having to contend mostly with her. To call her a stalker would be putting it mildly. Again, you flatter yourself that you mean enough to someone here to devote that much attention to you. > [@](#): > > I am a good guy in my own life. Anyone who knows me IRL would tell you that. I have to adopt an asshole persona here because assholism is all I get and have gotten from my first day on this board, maybe even my first post. No, you _don’t_ have to be an asshole. That is YOUR choice. > [@](#): > > Even at that however, I’m far less assholish than my opponents here. How many times have I said “fuck you” to someone here. Or called them an “asshole,” or told them to “shut the fuck up?” As my southern mother-in-law would say… _Bless_ your heart. You can be an asshole without swearing. > [@](#): > > So I keep hearing. My experiences with the young guys I mentioned and the young women I work with seem to belie that. Confirmation bias. > [@](#): > > I’m ALWAYS against almost everyone in every thread I post in. You and **iiandyiiii** and anyone else who feels the numbers I’m up against here are proof that I’m wrong need to get outside your bubble. So… why are you here? Are you a masochist, subjecting yourself repeatedly to unpleasantries? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/356 "2018-09-10T09:35:01Z")
This is a message board for intelligent people. If you’re always at odds with everyone else, that should tell you something. When the issue is about what women think, and there isn’t a single woman on the board who agrees with you, that should tell you something. **You’re probably wrong.** I have my disagreements with the majority at times. But it’s not all the time. And if a woman tells me that I’m wrong about how women think, I don’t presume I know more than they do. Do you really think you’re some unknown genius with mind reading powers? Or could it be that you’re just so married to a certain worldview that you ignore all evidence to the contrary? ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/357 "2018-09-10T11:08:17Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > … > I can not wait until your generation dies off. > > The world will be a much more peaceful place. You are too optimistic. The most offensive things I hear are said by people in their 20s and early 30s. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Actually, the world was a much more peaceful place prior to the ascendancy of liberalism. Now we’ve got a thousand different groups all hating each other because none of the groups behave the way the other groups have decided they should. Everywhere one turns there’s “privilege this” and “racial” that, “cultural appropriation here” and “transgender bathrooms” there, and Christmas here and the War On Christmas there, etc., etc., etc. multiplied a hundred fold. You’ve turned this into a country of human piranhas in a feeding frenzy where all are eating each other. People have gotten fed up with it and the result is that Donald Trump sits in the Oval Office. > > Good job, libbies. Damn, did he really just up and say the country was a better place when white so-called Christian men were in charge and everybody else knew their place? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/358 "2018-09-10T11:08:38Z")
No, he literally thinks all the women here are brainwashed. Look back a few pages. That was literally his response when I called him an arrogant prick. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/359 "2018-09-10T11:17:02Z")
Liberals may be unhappy but only because there are still so many troglodytes who cannot accept that someone other than a white man might have a legitimate opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/360 "2018-09-10T11:23:11Z")
Ah the usual **SA** show is in full swing, I see. As always, his posts boil down to the following rules: 1. **Starving Artist** is always right, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary. 2. Any evidence to the contrary that can’t be handwaved away is the result of something someone else did. Nothing is ever the fault of **Starving Artist** or conservatives in general. Any bad, stupid or wrong things he or conservatives may have said or done are the fault of things liberals have said or done. Sometimes the things liberals have done are so bad that they have shattered the space-time continuum and forced conservatives to do bad things many years earlier, which just goes to show how bad liberals are. 3. When everyone else in a thread is pointing out that he’s wrong, that’s just definitive proof that they are all part of the liberal hivemind. See rule #1. 4. **Starving Artist** ’s insistence that everyone be polite only applies to everyone else, who must be polite to him. If he acts like a raging asshole, even from the get-go, it’s everyone else’s fault for making him do it. 5. **Starving Artist** ’s memory of The Way Things Were is the definitive historical record. Any evidence that indicates that he is delusional is either wrong or the fault of liberals. See rule #2. There - now you know what every single post he writes will be about and you can safely scroll past them without worrying about missing anything. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/361 "2018-09-10T12:35:10Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > \ > > There - now you know what every single post he writes will be about and you can safely scroll past them without worrying about missing anything. Actually already was doing that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925.md?page=19)