# Saying Hot Chick = Being A Misogynist Asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 7, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925 "2018-09-07T04:12:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/502 "2018-09-12T18:44:12Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I’m not saying you can’t criticize the comment. I’m saying that the comments that are being criticized and how they are being criticized make the nutty PC brigade look nutty. Don’t you see how that can be counterproductive when there are far larger issues to tackle? Why not expend that energy on real issues? > > We have religions that preach women are inferior and subservient. We have art/entertainment forms that are highly misogynistic. In countries across the world women are second class maybe even third class citizens. Yet “hot chick” is this intrinsically sexist and great evil that needs combating? > > Finally it’s hard for the pc run amok side to claim the moral high ground when they carve out many exemptions to pc-ness in order to have a convenient target to exploit for their own tribal reasons. Is it time for another game of “Right-Wing Buzzword Bingo”? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/503 "2018-09-12T18:51:46Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I’m not saying you can’t criticize the comment. I’m saying that the comments that are being criticized and how they are being criticized make the nutty PC brigade look nutty. Nobody **was** criticizing the comment in question until the outraged-manbaby brigade showed up demanding to have it explained to them, over and over again at great length, what could possibly be open to criticism in that comment. > [@octopus](#): > > Don’t you see how that can be counterproductive when there are far larger issues to tackle? Why not expend that energy on real issues? You mean, instead of whining and carrying on for over a dozen pages about a gentle correction to an irrelevant remark? Yes indeed, why don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/504 "2018-09-12T19:06:18Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Nobody **was** criticizing the comment in question until the outraged-manbaby brigade showed up demanding to have it explained to them, over and over again at great length, what could possibly be open to criticism in that comment. > You mean, instead of whining and carrying on for over a dozen pages about a gentle correction to an irrelevant remark? Yes indeed, why don’t you? I didn’t whine or carry on about the correction. I commented on the ridiculous rationales others offered concerning the appropriate nature of the triggering comment. Let’s work on accuracy please. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/505 "2018-09-12T19:07:34Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I can call my wife hot chick whenever I want. I heard another woman call women sexy chicks just a couple days ago. No one raised a fuss over that evil, objectifying, dehumanizing, and inappropriate behavior. > > We can call each other cunts here. I suppose cunt is less of an insult than chick here in straightdope-bizarro land. You just do that little thing. Call your wife anything you and her agree is ‘cute’. I don’t care. No one else cares. The problem is men grabbing their junk and hollering ‘hot-chick’ or whatever crude remark they can come up with. I would not call anyone ‘cunt’, ever. That’s just me. But, by god, don’t you dare call out any sexist remark in my direction, there is never a good reason or the right time. Ever. Grow up. Teach young men a better way. It’s on you. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/506 "2018-09-12T19:16:17Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I didn’t whine or carry on about the correction. I commented on the ridiculous rationales others offered concerning the appropriate nature of the triggering comment. Let’s work on accuracy please. Aren’t there more important issues for you to concern yourself about? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/507 "2018-09-12T19:23:02Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I commented on the ridiculous rationales others offered concerning the appropriate nature of the triggering comment. And kept commenting, and commenting, and commenting, and commenting. And then whined that **other** people were dragging out the thread too long and wasting too much time and energy responding to your comments and answering your questions. If you don’t want other people to waste time talking to you about a topic that you don’t think deserves that much attention, then try shutting up about it yourself. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/508 "2018-09-12T19:32:39Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > …cunts… > [@octopus](#): > > …cunt… Potty mouth. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/509 "2018-09-12T19:43:11Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I can call my wife hot chick whenever I want. I heard another woman call women sexy chicks just a couple days ago. No one raised a fuss over that evil, objectifying, dehumanizing, and inappropriate behavior. Finally! Something to discuss that’s not a pulled-from-ass unsubstantiable silly claim. So what we have here is: 1. Pet names are considered okay between, shall we say, consenting couples. 2. Women saying something can have a different meaning than when men say something. Supposing I’m willing to concede both these points (which I am), and then casually say that I don’t feel that disproves that the word is a derogatory diminutive. All it means is that pet names allow (and are largely built on!) derogatory diminutives, and that just because women say something doesn’t mean YOU can. > [@octopus](#): > > We can call each other cunts here. I suppose cunt is less of an insult than chick here in straightdope-bizarro land. Unless you’re trying to argue that nobody would say that the term “cunt” is potentially offensive, I’d have to say you’ve lost track of what the discussion here is. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/510 "2018-09-12T19:59:35Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > Finally! Something to discuss that’s not a pulled-from-ass unsubstantiable silly claim. So what we have here is: > > 1. Pet names are considered okay between, shall we say, consenting couples. > > 2. Women saying something can have a different meaning than when men say something. > > Supposing I’m willing to concede both these points (which I am), and then casually say that I don’t feel that disproves that the word is a derogatory diminutive. All it means is that pet names allow (and are largely built on!) derogatory diminutives, and that just because women say something doesn’t mean YOU can. > > Unless you’re trying to argue that nobody would say that the term “cunt” is potentially offensive, I’d have to say you’ve lost track of what the discussion here is. Women can say stuff I can’t? I don’t believe in that type of double standard. If I weren’t so polite and gentlemanly I’d call you a hot chick. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/511 "2018-09-12T20:01:22Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > If I weren’t so polite and gentlemanly I’d call you a hot chick to prove my point. But don’t you see how that can be counterproductive when there are far larger issues to tackle? Why not expend that energy on real issues? If you want to keep wasting your time and energy arguing about this topic, don’t scold other people for wasting their time and energy arguing about it with you. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/512 "2018-09-12T20:12:37Z")
You realize I agree with making the world a more welcoming place for women but where I disagree is with the methods of the loony left? ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/513 "2018-09-12T20:21:15Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Did you move to Gilead? More likely Goliad. > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > The first time someone used “blessed be” on me, it was in a business setting. I found it very confusing. “Blessed be” is Wiccan; “Have a blessed day” appears to be some form of Christian, but I cannot confirm that because I have so far resisted the urge to ask, “By whom?” > [@octopus](#): > > I’m not saying you can’t criticize the comment. No one said you said they couldn’t criticize the comment. Indeed, no one said that you said that they can’t criticize the comment, which would have been patently ridiculous because they had been at some length by then. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/514 "2018-09-12T20:25:14Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You realize I agree with making the world a more welcoming place for women but where I disagree is with the methods of the loony left? You can agree or disagree with anything you like. But if you want to keep arguing with other people about issues on which you disagree with them, then you can’t in good faith scold them for wasting time and energy when they keep responding to your arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Alvin\_Karpis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@Alvin\_Karpis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alvin_Karpis)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/515 "2018-09-12T20:33:28Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > You still haven’t provided an example of a time when it would be appropriate to call people chicks. You simply asserted that “millions of people” think the word is complimentary, which sounds to me like the kind of bullshit a bullshitter would make up when they have no argument because seriously, how could you possibly have data on that? Answer: you don’t. You just like calling people derogatory diminutives and thus assume that everybody else does too. The Dixie Chicks? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/516 "2018-09-12T20:38:05Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > This thread is as good an argument as any I’ve ever seen for a box-type forum over here. Stick **octopus** , **Starving “for adolescents” Artist** , and whoever else always comes into these threads to be head-pattingly dismissive of the overly sensitive, special snowflake feminists borne of today’s overly PC era in there where they can have an echo chamber circlejerk about how they long for the good ole days when the women and the darkies knew their proper place. Hysterical lying moron seeks protection from echo chamber of two posters, whose posts are apparently so innocuous in fact that she must lie about them in her attempt to turn the SDMB into even more of a left-wing echo chamber than it is already. This board is seeking to grow its membership. Making it a place where you can’t point to a hot chick in a video clip, and/or where the slightest criticism or disapproval of or the practices of any members of any group besides white men gets labelled hate speech, is not, in my opinion, likely a very successful way to go about accomplishing this. You have an echo chamber your own already at the other board, where you can post the most idiotic shit imaginable and receive applause for it. Here at the Dope, there are standards and actual rules, and diversity of opinion and the debate or conversation that results from it is considered to be a good thing. But you never bring any debate or conversation to an issue. You offer nothing in the way of insight, and you appear to completely lack the ability to form any sort of cogent rebuttal to statements or points of view you disagree with. All you appear capable of doing is complaining and spouting prejudicial nonsense that you couldn’t back up if your life depended on it. If I were you I’d content myself with hanging out at the other board where an almost total lack of standards and the aforementioned echo chamber allows you the illusion that you have anything of worth to say. Over here, on the other hand, you come across as one of the two most stupid posters on the board, so it’s little wonder you seek not to have to confront arguments that you’re incapable of contesting with anything other than lame insults. All of which is beside the point that the standards and rules that exist here would come into play with boxings just like they do with bannings. It’s not enough that people just don’t want to hear what the poster in question has to say. Your inability to recognize this distinction is not surprising. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/517 "2018-09-12T20:43:39Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Women can say stuff I can’t? I don’t believe in that type of double standard. If I weren’t so polite and gentlemanly I’d call you a hot chick. I was wondering if you’d attempt to dive down this rabbit hole. Based on how you mock your own position in the same breath, I assume you realize that source and context do indeed matter and this is just your coy way of conceding that. > [@octopus](#): > > You realize I agree with making the world a more welcoming place for women but where I disagree is with the methods of the loony left? I hesitate to even try to imagine how you would choose to make the world a more welcoming place for women. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/518 "2018-09-12T20:49:23Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > I was wondering if you’d attempt to dive down this rabbit hole. Based on how you mock your own position in the same breath, I assume you realize that source and context do indeed matter and this is just your coy way of conceding that. > > I hesitate to even try to imagine how you would choose to make the world a more welcoming place for women. Lol. Well for one I believe in actual equality not double standards. That is scary isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/519 "2018-09-12T20:57:26Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Yes, but it’s still a private board. Nobody can waltz in and start posting, they have to be members, and with membership comes certain responsibilities, would you agree? Yes. > [@kambuckta](#): > > It was national news here in Australia. Since that first instance, there have been two more tragedies, the last being just three days ago when a young father shot his wife, young kiddies and his mother in law. He seems up to date with all the other major news stories here, I doubt he would have missed any of the gun-related ones. I doubt he missed them too. He may not, however, have connected them up in your co-workers minds as being factors that would lead to discomfort over this gun talk. Horrible things are reported in the news every day that we don’t have foremost in minds when talking to friends or co-workers about other subjects. > [@kambuckta](#): > > When he first raised the subject a few weeks ago, we (me and another coworker) asked him to dial it back because of the sensitivity of the subject. It was totally polite (we are not allowed to swear on chat) but he felt aggrieved that he should not have the opportunity to talk about his guns and his shooting skills. What I wanted to know was specifically what was said. One person’s politeness may be another person’s condescension or attempt at what might be viewed as illegitimately assuming authority and seeking to set new rules. It’s pretty clear that something set him off, so I’m thinking that perhaps the exchange was not so benign from his point of view as it is in your interpretation of it. > [@kambuckta](#): > > And how about you start to LISTEN to what people are telling you here. I have been listening to what they say. It’s just that I disagree with both what they’re saying and the consequence of it should they prevail. > [@kambuckta](#): > > And how about you stop with the faux-outrage posts like yours above, Sweetie. It seems you missed the point. You’re not the only one. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/520 "2018-09-12T21:02:15Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Lol. Well for one I believe in actual equality not double standards. That is scary isn’t it? Is that how it works in your world? Ideas that aren’t completely in accordance with what you believe scare you? Or is this some ridiculously distorted image you have of yourself that people fear what you say because of it’s terrible truthiness? How pathetic-Seek help. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/521 "2018-09-12T21:07:37Z")
> [@Alvin\_Karpis](#): > > The Dixie Chicks? Nope. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925.md?page=27)