# Saying Hot Chick = Being A Misogynist Asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 7, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925 "2018-09-07T04:12:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/522 "2018-09-12T21:07:47Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Lol. Well for one I believe in actual equality not double standards. That is scary isn’t it? There is not a chance in hell you believe in actual equality to the point of declaiming double standards, you sexy lady who’s not old enough to drink, you. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/523 "2018-09-12T21:08:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Is that how it works in your world? Ideas that aren’t completely in accordance with what you believe scare you? Or is this some ridiculously distorted image you have of yourself that people fear what you say because of it’s terrible truthiness? > How pathetic-Seek help. I understand you were once a mod. With reading comprehension that poor I realize why the verb is in the past tense. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/524 "2018-09-12T21:09:29Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > What I wanted to know was specifically what was said. One person’s politeness may be another person’s condescension or attempt at what might be viewed as illegitimately assuming authority and seeking to set new rules. > > It’s pretty clear that something set him off, so I’m thinking that perhaps the exchange was not so benign from his point of view as it is in your interpretation of it. I can’t remember the exact exchange, but along the lines of: > [@](#): > > Hey Steve, talk of guns and shooting here on chat is making some of us uncomfortable mate. It’s not really appropriate in a work situation Had my other coworker or I been anything other than polite, we would have been pulled up IMMEDIATELY by a Team Leader as our chat function is monitored. Also, had it been condescending or seeking to assume authority, he would have immediately complained to a TL himself. As it was, he became belligerent and stroppy and at that point I asked the TL to intervene, which was done. From that point up until Tuesday this week when we got a new (female) TL he had abided by the instruction to keep gun-talk out of the workplace. On Tuesday he had a meltdown at the meeting because DESPITE having been shown how and why gun-talk is not ok, he still feels it’s his right to talk about it regardless. Just like the fellas in this thread who have been told how and why calling someone a hot chick in some contexts is not ok, but still feel it’s their right as red-blooded males to continue to do so. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/525 "2018-09-12T21:12:22Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I can call my wife hot chick whenever I want. I heard another woman call women sexy chicks just a couple days ago. No one raised a fuss over that evil, objectifying, dehumanizing, and inappropriate behavior. {…} Interesting that you don’t mention you calling women, that are not your wife, ‘hot chick’ in front of your wife or other women. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/526 "2018-09-12T21:12:40Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I understand you were once a mod. With reading comprehension that poor I realize why the verb is in the past tense. Way to stay on point, pusforbrains. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/527 "2018-09-12T21:15:48Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Lol. Well for one I believe in actual equality not double standards. That is scary isn’t it? Let’s see you wander around Harlem while repeatedly yelling “NIGGER!” ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/528 "2018-09-12T21:16:58Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You offer nothing in the way of insight, and you appear to completely lack the ability to form any sort of cogent rebuttal to statements or points of view you disagree with. I offered a rebuttal [here,](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21195725&postcount=210) you stupid fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/529 "2018-09-12T21:24:37Z")
> [@j666](#): > > I kind of agree with this one. I hate people calling me ‘sweetie’, ‘dear’, ‘honey’, and really do think people should know better. Same. Once had a coworker who said honey/sweetie/etc. obessively. I told her I really didn’t appreciate the endearments. She said “Well, honey, that’s how we do it down south!” My reply? “We are well above the Mason-Dixon line and that’s not how we do it up here, so please stop.” ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/530 "2018-09-12T21:34:39Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Let’s see you wander around Harlem while repeatedly yelling “NIGGER!” That’s a terrible example. I don’t wander around anywhere yelling anything. But, as I ask in the Serena cartoon thread, why the implication that black folks mindlessly react with violence to a word? And do black folks wander around Harlem acting as you suggest I do? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/531 "2018-09-12T21:36:04Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > I offered a rebuttal [here,](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21195725&postcount=210) you stupid fuck. You must have missed the adjective “cogent.” ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/532 "2018-09-12T21:37:38Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > That’s a terrible example. I don’t wander around anywhere yelling anything. But, as I ask in the Serena cartoon thread, why the implication that black folks mindlessly react with violence to a word? The violence in that case wouldn’t be mindless, understand. It would be a response to a veritable _request_ for a pummeling. That said, I agree that it’s a terrible example of how you don’t actually believe in contextless equality. A better example would be how you probably would have an issue with being referred to exclusively as a woman, and how you probably don’t think that people should just wander into whichever bathroom pleases them at a given moment. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/533 "2018-09-12T21:45:07Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > why the implication that black folks mindlessly react with violence to a word? Not implying anything, simply suggesting that you try your “not believing in double standards” where real life consequences could interfere. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/534 "2018-09-12T21:47:49Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > The violence in that case wouldn’t be mindless, understand. It would be a response to a veritable _request_ for a pummeling. > > That said, I agree that it’s a terrible example of how you don’t actually believe in contextless equality. A better example would be how you probably would have an issue with being referred to exclusively as a woman, and how you probably don’t think that people should just wander into whichever bathroom pleases them at a given moment. Sounds racist to imply that black folk are conditioned to react violently to words. That said, the presence of mob violence being a “consequence” doesn’t make double standards right. Why do you and others want to encourage an environment of double standards based on race or so-called gender? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/535 "2018-09-12T21:49:45Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Not implying anything, simply suggesting that you try your “not believing in double standards” where real life consequences could interfere. I believe that people should not have to take precautions against rape. Rape still happens. You think rape is appropriate in any circumstance? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/536 "2018-09-12T21:54:18Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I believe that people should not have to take precautions against rape. Rape still happens. You think rape is appropriate in any circumstance? I think you’re scrambling to find ways to deflect, hoping that nobody will notice the corner that you’ve argued yourself into. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/537 "2018-09-12T21:55:56Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I believe that people should not have to take precautions against rape. Rape still happens. You think rape is appropriate in any circumstance? Hey, **Starving Artist**! I think **pusforbrains** is pulling ahead in the “Cobwebs In The Windmills Of His Mind” contest. What have you got to top this? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/538 "2018-09-12T21:56:13Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > I think you’re scrambling to find ways to deflect, hoping that nobody will notice the corner that you’ve argued yourself into. There is no corner. I’m not the one suggesting a society of double standards enforced by mob violence. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/539 "2018-09-12T21:58:52Z")
No woman should have to deal with [misogynistic cyber hate speech](https://digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2143&context=fac_pubs). ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/540 "2018-09-12T21:59:49Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > There is no corner. I’m not the one suggesting a society of double standards enforced by mob violence. Do you have an “applause” machine you switch on after these “bon mots”, or is it all in your head? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/541 "2018-09-12T22:00:14Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > There is no corner. I’m not the one suggesting a society of double standards enforced by mob violence. Nice excluded middle you have there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925.md?page=28)