# Saying Hot Chick = Being A Misogynist Asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 7, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925 "2018-09-07T04:12:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/562 "2018-09-13T00:53:39Z")
Octopus- You really have boxed yourself in. You cannot win this debate. You don’t have the right to tell me how to feel. I can’t make you get it, you are not willing to adjust your thinking. This is a lost cause. You are too far gone to help. But, get this, the world is changing. You can either sit back in your shit and stew or just please shut up. The day of the older straight white guy is done. I am married to the biggest red-necked, southern guy you could ever meet. And he knows better than to objectify women. I have hope there are others. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/563 "2018-09-13T02:22:36Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Octopus- > You really have boxed yourself in. You cannot win this debate. You don’t have the right to tell me how to feel. I can’t make you get it, you are not willing to adjust your thinking. This is a lost cause. You are too far gone to help. But, get this, the world is changing. You can either sit back in your shit and stew or just please shut up. The day of the older straight white guy is done. I am married to the biggest red-necked, southern guy you could ever meet. And he knows better than to objectify women. I have hope there are others. How you think is fine by me. How about you afford others the same courtesy? Especially when I have posted several instances that use the term completely appropriately. That said, I don’t think you can accurately summarize how I think. Many of you on the loony left or just in general loon town assume far too much. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/564 "2018-09-13T02:32:06Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > How you think is fine by me. How about you afford others the same courtesy? Especially when I have posted several instances that use the term completely appropriately. > > That said, I don’t think you can accurately summarize how I think. **Many of you on the loony left or just in general loon town assume far too much.** (bolding mine)Yep-_that’s_ the way to foster courtesy. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/565 "2018-09-13T02:45:20Z")
Deflection, enough? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/566 "2018-09-13T04:43:25Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > :rolleyes: Remember, folks, what originally triggered this whole melodramatic doom-laden meltdown, and the fifteen-odd pages of arguing that preceded it, was the mere fact of a moderator mildly directing two posters in an Elections thread to rein in their irrelevant digression about a “hot chick” spotted in footage of Senate confirmation hearings. > > Nobody else gave the digressing posters any flak at all about their brief excursion into sexualized talk. Nobody opened a Pit thread to rant about how the male posters in question are “their enemy”. > > Nobody offered any criticism whatever of the expression used in this brief digression, until some indignant men opened first an ATMB thread and then this Pit thread demanding (over and over) to be told how such an expression could possibly be open to criticism. > > The people overreacting here aren’t the “overly sensitive liberal women”; they’re the fragile-masculinity sexism-soaked conservative men, inflicting upon the rest of us their prolonged infuriated tantrums over the completely unremarkable observation that it’s not always appropriate in every situation to refer to a woman as a “hot chick”. That’s the jaw dropping thing. Let’s review what caused this conservative male kurfluffle. > [@Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/77): > > Also, did anyone notice how the hot chick in the blue dress has been put aside so that Condi Rice is in full view during Kav’s opening statement? 🙂 I hate politics. > [@Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/78): > > I had some meetings, just tuning into Kavanaugh’s statement now. When was there a hot chick in blue? > [@Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/79): > > Stay focused, gentlemen. _That_ was the source of this latest conservative outrage. _That_ is the hill they want to die on. This male does not pit UltraVires or even Hurricane for their comments in that thread. No, what I pit is the ATMB multi-page conservative male whinefest. “Stay focused gentlemen”: that’s what they objected to. Manners. Class. Self respect. These are traditional conservative values, upheld by today’s liberals and place under siege by the modern conservative. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/567 "2018-09-13T05:26:45Z")
He just up and said men are the real victims here, didn’t he? And that men are the victims because they don’t get to treat other people however the fuck they want. He honestly up and said that. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/568 "2018-09-13T05:28:49Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Starving Artist** > women in the bad old 50s and 60s seemed to be a lot happier than women today. I’m guessing this is because they haven’t been taught by people with an agenda to seek out things to exaggerate the importance of and to get offended by and pissed off about > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Gary Kumquat** > Starving Artist’s ongoing “women would be happier if they just knew their place” bullshit: > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Starving Artist** > I’m quite certain I’ve never voiced such an opinion. > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Gary Kumquat** > You lying fuck. No u. Not only is there nothing in my comment that states women were happier “when they knew their place,” but what I did mean by it is spelled in the very post you quoted. The takeaway: you’re an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/569 "2018-09-13T06:36:33Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > Are you still bitter that you got perma boxed at Giraffe Boards? You might recall in the post in which I rejected hanging around in the box that I also stated my participation there was but a small diversion generally focused on the entertainment I found in confronting people who snarked about me there. > [@expectopatronum](#): > > Do you still frantically jerk your micro-penis every time you see your name come up in the snark thread? No longer read the snark thread. > [@expectopatronum](#): > > …it makes me so happy that the straw that broke the camel’s back for you over there was a response you made to me which was deemed gross enough that it warranted sticking you in the box for good… Too gross for _GB_? Please. I agree it was “deemed” too gross, but that was just an excuse for the boxing. I had posted much worse many times, and your post which I was responding to at the time was also worse. Long story short, the mods and admins had gotten tired of you whingebags endlessly crying for my boxing and finally got fed up with it enough to go back on their word that I be allowed to confront gratuitous insults posted about me on their board. The handwriting was on the wall when **Fenris** suddenly “forgot” comments regarding me were to be confined to the thread established for that purpose, and by his attempt to set me up by instituting a new after-the-fact policy in which there were no set rules but to follow and whose only guideline was “you’ll know when you’ve run afoul of the rules that exist only in my head once you’ve been boxed.” As you know, he got overruled on that but the writing was on the wall. > [@expectopatronum](#): > > , it’s interesting that after I point out that I have indeed made a (vitriolic) rebuttal to you in this thread, you elect not to respond. Probably because there’s no response you can make to go along with your chosen narrative of the hysterical wimmin folk needing fainting couches and safe spaces. My time is limited these days and as **octopus** pointed out, your post lacked cogency. Thus I didn’t bother. > [@expectopatronum](#): > > Real talk, bro, you’re just a piece of shit. I believe ‘bruh’ is the preferred way of trying to sound hip these days. > [@expectopatronum](#): > > You made yourself a laughingstock of this and all the splinter boards during the whole Penn State clusterfuck, and you’ll never recover from that. And yet here I am. > [@expectopatronum](#): > > You will forever be kiddie-rapist-defending, paper towel tube guy. You just like to pretend everyone else is crazy and you’re the persecuted one. They’re not crazy. They’re just hysterical, close-minded, resentful at having their idiotic ideas about Joe Paterno shot down one by one, and about as stupid and dishonest as it’s possible to be. You fit right in. > [@expectopatronum](#): > > The problem is you. Remember when I said your posts lack cogency? This little screed you posted is a perfect example of that insufficiency. In it, you’ve offered nothing by way of rebuttal except accusations and insults. When come back bring substance. I won’t hold my breath. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/570 "2018-09-13T09:17:26Z")
How about responding to MY response to your questions SA? ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/571 "2018-09-13T09:23:13Z")
Ignore ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/572 "2018-09-13T10:00:01Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > How about responding to MY response to your questions SA? I did. Post 541. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/573 "2018-09-13T10:02:59Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No u. > > Not only is there nothing in my comment that states women were happier “when they knew their place,” but what I did mean by it is spelled in the very post you quoted. > > The takeaway: you’re an idiot. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Not only is there nothing in my comment that states women were happier “when they knew their place,” “women in the bad old 50s and 60s seemed to be a lot happier than women today. I’m guessing this is because they haven’t been taught by people with an agenda to seek out things to exaggerate the importance of and to get offended by and pissed off about” Women were happier when they didn’t get upset by things that aren’t really important. They only think these things are important because they were misled by people. If only the poor things didn’t worry themselves about issues that didn’t concern them, they’d be much happier. Did I mention you’re a pathetic sexist sack of shit as well as a lying fuck? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/574 "2018-09-13T10:08:28Z")
No, but since you’re once again attributing words and beliefs to me that I’ve never said nor had occur to me, and stupidly to boot, I will mention again that you’re an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/575 "2018-09-13T11:42:38Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No u. > > Not only is there nothing in my comment that states women were happier “when they knew their place,” … Yes, there was. > [@](#): > > [clipped]… > women in the bad old 50s and 60s seemed to be a lot happier than women today … because… they haven’t _[sic]_ been taught by people with an agenda to seek out things to exaggerate the importance of and to get offended by and pissed off about … Women were not happier when they could hold no credit in their own names, could not rent apartments or apply for mortgages, were forced out of good paying jobs, and could be legally raped by their husbands. They weren’t crazy about girdles, either. The reason to think women were a lot happier and not offended and pissed off is that they were not complaining. That they knew their place. Assuming you meant “hadn’t”, not “haven’t”, you imply in that post that women’s concerns about how they are treated, especially by men, are not important, that women are easily manipulated, and that women are overly emotional. You’re dismissive, insulting, and condescending. No - stop - listen. Listen. You’re dismissive, insulting, and condescending to women. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/576 "2018-09-13T11:54:09Z")
> [@j666](#): > > He just up and said men are the real victims here, didn’t he? > > And that men are the victims because they don’t get to treat other people however the fuck they want. He honestly up and said that. Well yeah. And apparently I’m part of the loony left. Guess I’ll have to retrieve my votes of the last 32 years and re-cast them. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/577 "2018-09-13T11:58:16Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Manners. Class. Self respect. These are traditional conservative values, upheld by today’s liberals and place under siege by the modern conservative. Well said, and a bit of an eye-opener. You can add “family values” to that list too. Democrats would never elect someone as morally bankrupt as Trump. After all, look at what happened to Al Franken. The equivalency would be the left embracing a Harvey Weinstein candidacy. I wonder how it feels to betray your self-described, “rock-ribbed” principles. What a joke “conservatives” have become. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/578 "2018-09-13T13:05:18Z")
> [@wonky](#): > > The 9 Types of Reply Guy: Read through each of them and see how many posts in this thread you can map to a Reply Guy! > > [https://twitter.com/sbarolo/status/1036685010869407744](https://twitter.com/sbarolo/status/1036685010869407744) #2: Tone Police and #3: The Gaslighter are are the two most prominent, but #5: Himpathy is making a run. If this were in Great Debates, it would be 24/7 #6: The Sea Lion. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/579 "2018-09-13T13:19:01Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > You still haven’t provided an example of a time when it would be appropriate to call people chicks. [At least people have stopped calling them “broads”.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqeatUvRu68) ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/580 "2018-09-13T13:25:50Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > you’re once again attributing words and beliefs to me that I’ve never said nor had occur to me I’m attributing your exact words to you: “women in the bad old 50s and 60s seemed to be a lot happier than women today. I’m guessing this is because they haven’t been taught by people with an agenda to seek out things to exaggerate the importance of and to get offended by and pissed off about” I happily accept the meaning of those words doesn’t occur to you because frankly you’re quite stupid and incapable of understanding the implications of what you’ve said. As for your beliefs, you have made entirely clear just how fucked up they are in one shambolic rant after another. Whether it’s fucking a cardboard tube in an attempt to defend a child rape enabler, to stating that you think women don’t understand what they should be concerned about, you have proven what a poor excuse for a human being you are. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/581 "2018-09-13T15:20:04Z")
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