# Saying Hot Chick = Being A Misogynist Asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 7, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925 "2018-09-07T04:12:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/622 "2018-09-20T22:01:49Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > Yeah. Putting on airs about “fighting ignorance” is another thing we really need to drop. Disagree. Fighting ignorance is this board’s mission. There are better places on the internet for other goals. Fighting ignorance gives focus to conversation and moderation. > [@](#): > > But this whole affect of pretending we belong to some exclusive club that is somehow above the rest of the internet is pretty silly. I mean, who decides if a newer poster is doing enough to aid the fight against ignorance? You? Should there be a committee? Often it’s pretty clear when a new poster has no interest in fighting ignorance. I’m not saying they should be subject to gratuitous abuse. But bad behavior shouldn’t be enabled either. Self-selection, self-sorting, and a willingness or ability to abide by the rules is the decision making process. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/623 "2018-09-20T22:54:36Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > …a willingness or ability to abide by the rules… One of which is “no socks”. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/624 "2018-09-20T22:58:55Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Disagree. Fighting ignorance is this board’s mission. Honestly, I just can’t see how you can type this with a straight face. Do you not see how unbearably\* pompous\* that is? “Fighting ignorance since 1973–It’s taking longer than we thought” is just a catchphrase for the books and columns. It was dreamed up by one of the Cecils, probably one who came before Zotti, and probably it took him a moment to think of it. It’s a nice tagline for an “Ask the answer man” type of column, but it was never intended to be a serious mission statement. The board’s mission is to pass the time by bickering and shooting the shit. The only forum for which “fighting ignorance” remotely applies is GQ. Maybe sometimes CS or Game room when someone has a factual question about a movie or a sports rule. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/625 "2018-09-21T00:26:03Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Honestly, I just can’t see how you can type this with a straight face. Do you not see how unbearably\* pompous\* that is? “Fighting ignorance since 1973–It’s taking longer than we thought” is just a catchphrase for the books and columns. It was dreamed up by one of the Cecils, probably one who came before Zotti, and probably it took him a moment to think of it. It’s a nice tagline for an “Ask the answer man” type of column, but it was never intended to be a serious mission statement. > > The board’s mission is to pass the time by bickering and shooting the shit. The only forum for which “fighting ignorance” remotely applies is GQ. Maybe sometimes CS or Game room when someone has a factual question about a movie or a sports rule. The twin goals of the SDMB are fighting ignorance and making wisecracks. Specialization in one or the other is permitted. The core of this message board is actually GQ and Comments on Cecil’s Columns. I think it’s fair to say that the conversation is structured in those 2 venues. As it is in others. FTR: Zotti invented the slogan when Cecil broke onto the internet. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/626 "2018-09-21T00:28:29Z")
Well, Larry joined 7 months before you did, Measure, so his opinion counts more. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/627 "2018-09-21T01:04:17Z")
I’m positive I saw it on the books and columns before there even was an internet. Will double check after I get home. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/628 "2018-09-21T01:33:13Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And, guess what? Those fucking trolls lost us 11+ trans people, so I’m not going to let up on it. Wait what happened? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/629 "2018-09-21T01:37:49Z")
> [@Larry Borgia](#): > > I’m positive I saw it on the books and columns before there even was an internet. I can’t find it in my Straight Dope books from the 1980s. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/630 "2018-09-21T02:05:50Z")
Here’s my cite: > [@Fighting Ignorance Since 1973](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorance-since-1973/446736/7): > > As near as I can recall, I wrote this slogan for the T-shirts we started selling when the Straight Dope began appearing on America Online in 1995. Matt Jetmore, who ran a separate Straight Dope website at the time with our permission, picked it up at some point for the home page we took over when AOL kicked us out around 1999. It’s one of only two things I have ever written that Cecil has liked, the other being Perfect Master, his user title on the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/631 "2018-09-21T03:29:55Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Wait what happened? I dunno but SDSAB member Una Persson doesn’t post here anymore. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?u=4799](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/632 "2018-09-21T03:36:53Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And, guess what? Those fucking trolls lost us 11+ trans people, so I’m not going to let up on it. Come on man, really? 11+ trans people don’t know how to scroll past a moron posting moronic things? ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/633 "2018-09-21T04:12:56Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > I dunno but SDSAB member Una Persson doesn’t post here anymore. > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?u=4799](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Her profile shows activity for today, though true she hasn’t posted since February, but I’ve gone a year without posting before and it had nothing to do with offensive posts. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/634 "2018-09-21T04:44:39Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Her profile shows activity for today, though true she hasn’t posted since February, but I’ve gone a year without posting before and it had nothing to do with offensive posts. Una’s signature: “I’m with Eve - the kid-glove handling of anti-transgender trolls on here drove us away.” ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/635 "2018-09-21T05:23:14Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Una’s signature: “I’m with Eve - the kid-glove handling of anti-transgender trolls on here drove us away.” Ah ok gotcha, My original post was just wondering where this 11+ figure came from. It seems kind of odd to say you were driven away if you’re still logging in and presumably reading though. I could be driven away if this place got boring but I don’t think offense would do it. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/636 "2018-09-21T07:18:22Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I can’t find it in my Straight Dope books from the 1980s. > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Here’s my cite: OK, fine. I really do remember seeing it earlier, but I guess this is my alternate ending to Big moment. “Ignorance fought!” is I what I guess I should say. But it still doesn’t detract from my larger point, which is that it’s absurd to take “Fighting Ignorance” as some kind of grandiose mission statement. It’s still just a tagline, like “Coke: It’s the real thing” or “McDonald’s: I’m loving it.” ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/637 "2018-09-21T13:34:02Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Una’s signature: “I’m with Eve - the kid-glove handling of anti-transgender trolls on here drove us away.” I guess they kept in touch somehow? Eve hasn’t posted here in 6 years and she doesn’t seem to announce her reason for leaving in any of her last few posts. ---
**Author:** ![What\_sGoingToSetYouFree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@What\_sGoingToSetYouFree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_sGoingToSetYouFree)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/638 "2018-09-21T15:47:50Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Pitt? Sorry, just meant Pit, unintentional. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/639 "2018-09-21T17:10:59Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Come on man, really? 11+ trans people don’t know how to scroll past a moron posting moronic things? My guess is it was more of a cumulative thing; the anti-trans trolling combined with the seemingly impenetrable wall of ignorance she (and they) faced on a regular basis when trying to shed some understanding on the reality of their lives. You can only repeat yourself so many times before it becomes an act of masochism. > [@pool](#): > > Ah ok gotcha, My original post was just wondering where this 11+ figure came from. It seems kind of odd to say you were driven away if you’re still logging in and presumably reading though. I could be driven away if this place got boring but I don’t think offense would do it. “Driven away” meaning, to my ears, to disengage from posting. And you don’t see yourself getting offended enough about any subject to stop posting because no subject has the personal intimacy, as well as astronomical misunderstanding and ostracization that transgenderism has for people like Una. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/640 "2018-09-21T17:27:27Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > My guess is it was more of a cumulative thing; the anti-trans trolling combined with the seemingly impenetrable wall of ignorance she (and they) faced on a regular basis when trying to shed some understanding on the reality of their lives. You can only repeat yourself so many times before it becomes an act of masochism Fair enough. I can see how that would be maddening. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925/641 "2018-09-21T17:34:15Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > You can only repeat yourself so many times before it becomes an act of masochism. If that isn’t an accurate summation of the majority of this thread, I don’t know what is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saying-hot-chick-being-a-misogynist-asshole/820925.md?page=33)