# SC voter ID law shot down **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 23, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sc-voter-id-law-shot-down/607222 "2011-12-23T22:42:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sc-voter-id-law-shot-down/607222/481 "2012-01-05T03:54:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I don’t see any way around it. They are both"absolute" rights. (And in this instance, quote marks mean “for really and true”, which is different for “statistics”). And one absolute right demands proof of citizenship, and the other does not, and they must be the same, because they are both “absolute”! Its the perfect comparison, apples and orangutans. Both carbon-based life forms. > > Looks like we’ll have to stop checking IDs at the borders. Shit, was hoping it wouldn’t come to that. Yes, I figured you would punt. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sc-voter-id-law-shot-down/607222/482 "2012-01-05T03:58:43Z")
Oh, you got that one, for sure! If two rights are absolute, they must be treated identically, in all circumstances! Says so right there in the…ah…says so right there in…mmmmm. Actually, come to think on it, where does it say so? Where does _anything_ say so? Outside of yourself, that is. ---
**Author:** ![bioqubit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce73a5/32.png) [@bioqubit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bioqubit)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sc-voter-id-law-shot-down/607222/483 "2012-01-06T03:46:57Z")
The unquestioned, endlessly adoring look in people’s eyes when a federal agency pronounces anything. Dude. There are some things which are still the “property” of the states and not the federal government. Voting is one of them. The justice dept can complain, but the state decides. So, if SC chooses to require photo ID, that is presumably what the majority of voters in SC want. So, justice dept…bug off. ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sc-voter-id-law-shot-down/607222/484 "2012-01-06T03:53:24Z")
> [@bioqubit](#): > > The unquestioned, endlessly adoring look in people’s eyes when a federal agency pronounces anything. Dude. There are some things which are still the “property” of the states and not the federal government. Voting is one of them. The justice dept can complain, but the state decides. So, if SC chooses to require photo ID, that is presumably what the majority of voters in SC want. So, justice dept…bug off. Yeah, screw those “rights”. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sc-voter-id-law-shot-down/607222/485 "2012-01-06T03:55:42Z")
> [@bioqubit](#): > > The unquestioned, endlessly adoring look in people’s eyes when a federal agency pronounces anything. Dude. There are some things which are still the “property” of the states and not the federal government. Voting is one of them. The [Voting Rights Act of 1965](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act) proves you wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sc-voter-id-law-shot-down/607222/486 "2012-01-06T05:19:53Z")
> [@bioqubit](#): > > The unquestioned, endlessly adoring look in people’s eyes when a federal agency pronounces anything. Dude. There are some things which are still the “property” of the states and not the federal government. Voting is one of them. The justice dept can complain, but the state decides. So, if SC chooses to require photo ID, that is presumably what the majority of voters in SC want. So, justice dept…bug off. Er,..no…that’s not remotely true. That said, is your position then the the federal government was wrong to strike down poll taxes, literacy tests and the various other laws that were pretty clearly designed to make it extremely difficult for African-Americans to vote? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sc-voter-id-law-shot-down/607222.md?page=24)