# Scam (Internet and Otherwise) Omnibus Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 4, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265 "2022-04-04T18:23:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/721 "2024-03-22T15:41:09Z")

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I got a call the other day from someone claiming to be a policeman.  
The call showed as “private number”  
He sounded very plausible, very conversational - not like he was reading from a script or anything.  
He told me he had someone in custody for fraud who claimed to be my grandson.  
I told him he wasn’t - i don’t have any children grand or otherwise.  
He had my name, address and phone number.  
He told me that the suspect had several fake credit cards in  
his posession, and that he had given my name for potential bail.  
He then told me that as i didn’t know him, i should call the  
police non-emergency number and give his details to the call  
handler and to “refuse bail access”.  
Now… i’m sure the number he told me to call was 191, which  
doesn’t exist. The correct number is 101. Anyway, when i tried  
to call, i saw the “private number” message appearing, like he  
was trying to call me again, but i got no response when i spoke…  
So, i eventually got through with the 101 number - but when i  
related what had happened and they tried to verify his details,  
they could find no officer with the name/number he gave me, and  
we concluded that it was a scam attempt.  
I guess the “private number” i saw was him trying the old  
staying-on-the-line trick whereby i was supposed to think i was  
calling the new number (101) but was actually still connected to his line.

I’m still confused as to how the scam was supposed to work if i was  
asked to “refuse bail access”…

🤷

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/722 "2024-03-22T16:10:10Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
>
> They no more make money than American slaves shared in cotton profits. The people making money never see your oh so witty responses.

Fine, then I’ll grant a number of them are being forced to _be criminals_ and to _victimize others_ as part of their own misfortune. I’ll not wish harm on them, but to obstruct them is still the better path, because while I absolutely DO NOT demand that they choose to die before committing crimes, they are further increasing the misery. NOT (again) by their own free will, but by their actions.

Which means I stand by my earlier statement:

> [@ParallelLines](#):
>
> They’re both reprehensible criminals, and if someone wants to tie them up in knots, and take time away they could be going after the NEXT innocent, I’ll cheer them on even if I won’t do it myself.

I will grant that the specific group you’re citing (which we have no evidence is a substantial portion of the scammer whole) is worthy of our pity as well as our disgust, but wasting their time so they can’t go on to scam others? Absolutely a mitzvah, even if it isn’t always done out of righteousness.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/723 "2024-03-22T16:13:00Z")

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Ok, I’m not going to argue this anymore. I’d still recommend watching the John Oliver segment on “pig butchering” though.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2024, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/724 "2024-03-24T04:20:02Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
>
> FYI, [here is a link](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/17/world/asia/myanmar-cyber-scam.html) to a New York Times article about a forced labor camp in Myanmar where people are forced to work for gangs scamming money.
> 
> (I tried to provide a gift link but for some reason, the NYT website wouldn’t let me

Maybe [this gift link](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/17/world/asia/myanmar-cyber-scam.html?ugrp=c&unlocked_article_code=1.fE0.dlix.JYmAFA4KQ97i&smid=url-share) will work?

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/725 "2024-03-25T02:59:30Z")

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How does this _not_ raise giant red flags all over the place?  
[![](https://i.imgur.com/kGhTwit.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/kGhTwit.jpg)  
[SpyDialer](https://spydialer.com/) says the phone is almost certainly a VOIP number but otherwise finds no records.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/726 "2024-03-25T03:14:49Z")

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I mean, it’s less scammy than a lot honestly. It isn’t promising a specific sum of money. Really, it’s a gimmick for any of the countless “We buy used homes in your area” people, which, well, ARE pretty scammy in the first place, and that’s discounting the ones that ARE out-right scams (plenty of them).

> **[Are 'We Buy Houses' Companies a Rip-Off? Here's What Customers Say](https://listwithclever.com/real-estate-blog/we-buy-houses-ripoff/)**
>
> 'We buy houses' companies can sound like a rip-off — but it depends on how you look at it. See what customers say about working with cash buyers, plus how to spot a scam!

It’s absolutely still a Red Flag though, and unless you’re one of those people who have a legit need for such a service (and in that case, you should be contacting them, not taking a blind contact as a sign from the FSM) should be tossed ASAP.

For the record, not doubting your analysis @running_coach, but the original point of the thread was to share scams that people should be aware of, not just baiting them, and this one is a teachable moment.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/727 "2024-03-25T13:44:38Z")

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Otherwise typical scam (ATM card worth of 3,5Millions Of United State Dollars Only"). I got a photo(shopped badly) of the envelope using the addressed with the personal details (@Mangetout: You know, the kind of personal details you _never_ tell a stranger on the internet") I provided.  
_Peter Mosse_  
_760 Meadow Dr._  
_Loris, SC 29569 USA_  
_64, Male_  
_Consulting Airflow Engineer_  
_Colondarism_  
_Serial Widower_  
_I do not use a phone due to a severe speech impediment._

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/728 "2024-03-28T15:55:13Z")

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The “Metropolis Parking Co.” Got a notification from them:  
I have to give them credit for directness, they came right out and asked for my credit card information, no dancing around! I’ve never been to Metropolis, don’t even know if it exists. Our cars are in Hawaii and just for clarification, I checked if the license plates were still there - yep, not stolen and spirited away.

I did not respond, no sense telling them there’s a live one on that email account

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/729 "2024-03-29T23:01:42Z")

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Looks like I have a live one.

> Hallo,  
> Ich bin Frau Maria Elisabeth Schaeffler, eine deutsche Unternehmerin,  
> Investoren und
> 
> Philanthrop. Ich bin der Vorsitzende von Wipro Limited. 25 Prozent von mir
> 
> Das Privatvermögen wird für wohltätige Zwecke ausgegeben. und ich  
> Ich habe auch versprochen, mich um den Rest zu kümmern
> 
> 25 % werden im Jahr 2024 an Privatpersonen verschenkt. I  
> beschlossen, zu spenden
> 
> 1.500.000,00 Euro an Sie. Wenn Sie Interesse an meiner Spende haben,  
> kontaktiere mich
> 
> für mehr Informationen.
> 
> Sie können auch über den untenstehenden Link mehr über mich lesen
> 
> [Maria-Elisabeth Schaeffler - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria-Elisabeth_Schaeffler)
> 
> Grüße
> 
> Geschäftsführer Wipro Limited
> 
> Maria-Elisabeth\_Schaeffler

_English, please._

_Peter Mosse_

> dear lover
> 
> I appreciate you writing to me. Thank you for your response and it was good.
> 
> Mind you, I did this for pure reason. Since I wrote to you I feel strong
> 
> she contacted me. I am Maria Elisabeth Schaeffler, German citizen and owner of
> 
> The Schaeffler Group, one of the largest roller producers in the world
> 
> Store. My donation of 1,500,000.00 euros may not be much for you but
> 
> I think this will help a lot to improve your standard of living like mine.
> 
> If you have done business with me in the past, I would not ask you to complete the required fields listed below.
> 
> Information and comments for me and my entire family will be happy about it.
> 
> I would like to ask you to visit us after receiving my donation. Do this as soon as possible
> 
> Please contact the paying bank for further instructions on how to receive a donation.
> 
> You can see it here: [Maria-Elisabeth Schaeffler - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria-Elisabeth_Schaeffler)
> 
> The intention of this email is to be a great blessing to people. in it
> 
> At my age I can’t continue accumulating wealth without giving. I
> 
> They have a net worth of more than $3.1 billion. You can also continue reading this.
> 
> Forbes:
> 
> [Maria-Elisabeth Schaeffler-Thumann](https://www.forbes.com/profile/maria-elisabeth-schaeffler-thumann/#443b4a6e19c7)
> 
> I don’t have much money to spend on it, so I indulge in that type of action.
> 
> They are blessings to others. I hope when you receive this
> 
> Money will be of great benefit to you, and you will also be able to help other people.
> 
> Never. The way you emailed me and how other people treated me with respect.
> 
> for donation. When you know you are ready to receive the money from
> 
> 1,500,000.00 euros (1.5 million euros). Please confirm preparation by email
> 
> introduce yourself in detail
> 
> FULL BELOW:
> 
> **1) It is a complete noun**
> 
> 1. Cell phone number
> 
> 2. your country
> 
> 3. Your status
> 
> 4. Your city
> 
> 5. Your address
> 
> 6. Your marital status
> 
> 7. Your age
> 
> 8. Your profession
> 
> 9. WhatsApp number:
> 
> I asked for this brief information just to know who we are giving the expenses to.
> 
> Money for and because of identity theft on the Internet, the
> 
> I have been a victim in the past and I do not want to ask you for your identification.
> 
> We don’t want to give you an impression that I would like to steal.
> 
> your identity.
> 
> What would you do with that money?
> 
> After that, I will send a letter approving the money from the Alliance trust bank.
> 
> . Please my friend, this is my personal wealth.
> 
> It does not require any formal procedure and may therefore appear overly simplistic.
> 
> **For you to receive this gift, I would kill you to come back later.**
> 
> this donation to be able to reach others in need. I do it like a free spirit
> 
> Gift and I have it. Please contact anyone who may see my post.
> 
> Opportunity only comes once…
> 
> I await your email to proceed.
> 
> Be blessed.
> 
> Mrs. Maria Elisabeth Schaeffler

_Peter Mosse_

_760 Meadow Dr._

_Loris, SC 29569 USA_

_Serial Widower_

_64, Consulting Airflow Engineer_

_I do not use a phone due to a severe speech impediment._

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/730 "2024-03-29T23:07:56Z")

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That is just _wrong_ on so many levels. My eyes are bleeding after reading, sounds like it’s been through Google translate 2 or 3 times, but the **Bolded** sections especially hurt my brain.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/731 "2024-03-29T23:18:46Z")

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_Damn_, this one is _stupid_.

> FULL BELOW:
> 
> 1. It is a complete noun
> 
> 2. Cell phone number
> 
> 3. your country
> 
> 4. Your status
> 
> 5. Your city
> 
> 6. Your address
> 
> 7. Your marital status
> 
> 8. Your age
> 
> 9. Your profession
> 
> 10. WhatsApp number:

_What noun do you want?_

_What status do you mean?_

_I don’t use Whatsapp._

_Peter Mosse_

> Where are you from ? Your marital status  
> Your age your address

_I sent you all that._

_Peter Mosse_

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/732 "2024-03-29T23:27:46Z")

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> Hello dear beneficiaries.  
> I have forwarded your details to my Approved Accountant and like Stated in
> 
> your Funds donation condition by my bank pay out, There is a registration
> 
> fee to be paid by you and this fee is imposed to be paid because of the scam
> 
> activities going on in the Internet so the international monetary fund
> 
> (IMF) introduce this method to control scam victims in the Internet so that
> 
> will be able to terminate scam or fraud and that is the reason why you need to
> 
> register this your Funds before My bank can make the transfer to your bank
> 
> account.
> 
> The cost for the registration according to the IMF is (2,200 Euro) of the
> 
> total amount of (1.5 million euros) transfer to you will only take 3 hours
> 
> just as soon as you send the  
> 2,200 Euro) of for the registration according to the
> 
> IMF.
> 
> I want you to understand that you are not sending this fee to me or my bank
> 
> payout Transfer… My bank payout also has some amount to pay to the IMF
> 
> too, so they will forward your fee and theirs to the IMF office, And as soon
> 
> as the payment is done, You will have authorization note, Before the
> 
> subsequent Transfer of your 1.5 Million EURO
> 
> My bank payout cannot deduct or add the  
> 2,200 Euro to your funds because of it
> 
> is against their working policy and they cannot break the rules. The
> 
> lawyers fees were paid from my payout bank account, If you agree to this
> 
> registration fee, You will get your Funds without any hassle. Once the
> 
> payment is done your funds will be credited into your account successfully
> 
> Okay.
> 
> If you are in agreement with Bank To Bank money Transfer to receive
> 
> 1,500,000 euros successfully you are to get back to me with this
> 
> information below.
> 
> BANKING INFORMATION ALSO NEEDED
> 
> Name of Bank:
> 
> Name of Account/Holder:
> 
> Iban::
> 
> Account Number:
> 
> Type Of Account:
> 
> BIC/SWIFT:
> 
> Bank Address:
> 
> Your Cell Number:
> 
> Get back to me as soon as possible…
> 
> Thanks for your understanding…
> 
> Mrs Maria Elisabeth Schaeffler

_United Community Bank_  
_5009 Broad St Loris, SC 29569_  
_https ://www.ucbi.com_  
_1 (800) 822-2651_  
_Routing 061112843_  
_Account 00901657034250_  
_SWIFT:UCOUUS33_  
_I already told you I don’t use a cell phone_

There’s also a badly Photoshopped passport that looks nothing like the real person.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/733 "2024-03-30T01:03:37Z")

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> Your message was well understood are you in agreement to pay the IMF fees so that we can proceed on the transaction

_Yes._

_Peter Mosse_

> When do you want to make the payment to the IMF ? so that I can provide you the information

_Any time you want to get it._

_Peter Mosse_

> If you want to make the payment right now let me know that we can continue on the transaction thanks  
> Which of the methods do you prefer

_What’s the quickest method?_

_Peter Mosse_

> Which method do you use to send money ??
> 
> Can you send it through bitcoin? Or bank to bank
> 
> Transfer?

_I’ve never done bitcoin so I’ll choose bank to bank._

_Peter Mosse_

> Bank name:ANZ bank
> 
> Account name:Chan kian hee
> 
> BSB 013132
> 
> Acct 335369459
> 
> Swift code ANZBAU3M
> 
> Country:Australia
> 
> Kindly make the payment and send us the receipt
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Mrs Marian Elisabeth

(Look, she’s Marian now)

_I’ve never seen a BSB code. What is that?_

_Peter Mosse_

> Iban

_Receipt attached._

_Peter Mosse_  
(usual fake screenshot except I sent Australian dollars instead of Euros)

> Kindly provide me the debit you got on your email or your text messages for confirmation

_Nope. No one sees my bank statement. That’s private information._

_Peter Mosse_

> You can cover your balance we are required it for better confirmation thanks

_I’m sure you wouldn’t show your bank statement so why should I show mine?_

_Peter Mosse_

> Please for better confirmation provide good proof of payment thank please be fast about it so that we can proceed on the transaction now thanks

_I can wait until the money hits the bank. I’m not greedy._

_Peter Mosse_

> Yes please provide vivid proof of information of the payment so that we can continue on the process right now thank  
> Provide the debit alert for better confirmation

_I’ll do it Monday when I can go to the bank and get a teller receipt. You can’t do any further process until you actually receive the money anyway._

_Peter Mosse_  
So nothing further for almost 30 minutes. Wait and see if they try on Monday.

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> [@smithsb](#):
>
> The “Metropolis Parking Co.” Got a notification from them

This sounds like a job for Superman!

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The saga continues…

> Good day how are you doing and how is your family? Please kindly be informed to provide the teller debit receipt the bank will give to you so that we can proceed on the transaction today without wasting time ok
> 
> Kind regards  
> Mrs Marian Elizabeth

(one minute later)

> Good day how are you doing and how is your family? Please kindly be informed to provide the teller debit receipt the bank will give to you so that we can proceed on the transaction today without wasting time ok
> 
> Kind regards  
> Mrs Marian Elizabeth

_I don’t need reminding like I’m a little boy._

_Receipt attached._

_Peter Mosse_

[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/Sz3tifD.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/4bWtvAW)

> What do you mean dear please this isn’t a clear receipt the bank suppose to issue you ok , the clear teller supposed to show negative sign ok please provide the receipt so that we can start on time with your donation money

> We need ligit confirmation so that we can proceed on the transaction kindly provide there it show deducted on your account and also show negative sign  
> Thanks you

> Please this is not bank teller receipt ok

_That’s how the bank formats the teller receipts._

_Peter Mosse_

* * *

_How could you possibly know what every receipt looks like?_

_Peter Mosse_

> Kindly provide where you were debited thank  
> And show us where you where debited
> 
> Let me show you how receipts look like

_It’s all on the receipt. You can’t possibly know what receipts look like from every bank, store, gas station, etc._

_Peter Mosse_

> Has the money left your account already? If yes let me see for clearer confirmation time is going so that we can continue the process of your transaction thanks because we need to send clear confirmation to IMF office thanks
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Mrs Marian Elisabeth

_Of course it’s left the account, it’s all there on the receipt. Including the time it was accepted by the receiving bank._

_Peter Mosse_

> Show the proof for confirmation

> The IMF offices have not yet received the money
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Mrs Marian Elisabeth

_I’ve already sent you two confirmations. Maybe you should be questioning the person I sent the money to._

_Peter Mosse_

_If the IMF was involved, I would have sent the money to Mr. Jim Phelps, not whoever you had me send to._

_Peter Mosse_

> On the first receipt it was showing AUD which is equivalent to the 2200 euro of the fees and on the second receipt is showing usd can you explain please i think you aren’t ready for we to proceed show us the place where you where debited that show negative sign thanks you
> 
> I will not ask you again sir
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Mrs Marian Elizabeth

> What do you mean

_Because I paid out in USD, can’t use Aussie cash in the States. The bank converted the amount to Aussie dollars when it was sent._

_Peter Mosse_

And that’s where it stands as of 45 min. ago.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/736 "2024-04-01T17:06:15Z")

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It may be me, or the editing, but it seems when they think they’ve got a chance for the money (rather than just fishing) their ability to communicate seems improve.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/737 "2024-04-01T17:30:45Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> It may be me, or the editing, but it seems when they think they’ve got a chance for the money (rather than just fishing) their ability to communicate seems improve. -

With this one, it couldn’t get much worse.  
Most often, they get worse (and often abusive) as they get increasingly frustrated.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/738 "2024-04-01T18:00:25Z")

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Perhaps when they realize they caught a fish (or, more correctly, a possible victim), they pass off contact to someone higher up in the organization, perhaps someone with better English language skills?

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/739 "2024-04-01T18:04:31Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Perhaps when they realize they caught a fish (or, more correctly, a possible victim), they pass off contact to someone higher up in the organization, perhaps someone with better English language skills?-

It still sounds like the same person. Better English skills doesn’t always reach _good_ English skills.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/740 "2024-04-01T21:03:25Z")

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What is this scam? Once every week or so, I get something purporting to come from McAfee (that I have long since blown off) thanking me for having renewed my subscription for another year for, say, $150, and saying the charge will show up on my CC in a day or so. If there is any problem, call this 800 number. The charge never shows up and I never call the number. I am sure it is a scam, but I cannot figure out what it is.

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