# Scam (Internet and Otherwise) Omnibus Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 4, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265 "2022-04-04T18:23:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/61 "2022-06-16T19:38:39Z")

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That’s just an attempt to switch you to an alternate provider. There’s a number of ways it can go from there. All bad.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/62 "2022-06-16T19:42:06Z")

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> **[‘Alternative’ suppliers scam homeowners into higher electricity bills](https://wgntv.com/news/alternative-suppliers-scam-homeowners-into-higher-electricity-bills/)**
>
> CHICAGO — Last February, we told you how natural gas was experiencing a 15-year low and alternative suppliers were likely not delivering the best deals when it comes to home heating. Now it&#…

[https://www.masslegalservices.org/content/alternative-utility-supply-market—-scam-most-if-not-all-consumers-information-your-clients](https://www.masslegalservices.org/content/alternative-utility-supply-market%E2%80%94-scam-most-if-not-all-consumers-information-your-clients)

> **[7 Types of Bank Scams & How to Avoid These Frauds](https://www.moneycrashers.com/types-bank-scams-frauds/)**
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> Worried about being scammed? Protect your hard-earned cash by knowing what to look for. Read more here.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/63 "2022-06-16T19:45:06Z")

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Thanks!

They would have a better chance if they used a real phone number.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/64 "2022-06-16T21:23:08Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> The latest…
> 
> > Hello Mr. Mosse,  
> > Good evening from us here and how are you doing today?
> > 
> > All your returned MOU and the Authorization letter is noted and we need to make payment for the probate documents so we can secure the probate documents by next week and forward them to the bank for processing of the fund.
> > 
> > **This expenses will be out of pocket expenses** which will be settled from the **5% mapped out for it.** I will send **our account officer details to you for the half of the payment** while I will settle the remaining half as i’m working very hard to secure this fund latest by next coming week.
> > 
> > Let me know immediately.
> 
> Good thing I obey without questioning the contradiction.

Got the bank details. Sent this. Waiting for fireworks since he’s expecting a paper receipt. This is just the “template” I keep ready.  
[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/BEDzCXd.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/BEDzCXd)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/65 "2022-06-16T21:40:30Z")

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Just got an answer.

> Hello Mr. Mosse,
> 
> Your email is well received and once your payment is confirmed then you will be notified. I will schedule payment on Monday once your payment is confirmed today or tomorrow.

Of course, the next step is to accuse him of lying about not getting the money.

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**Author:** ![Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Long_Time_First_Time)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/66 "2022-06-16T21:42:25Z")

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There is a new universe of scammers and suckers associated with cryptocurrency and NFT’s. At its best it’s just a pyramid scheme with lots of smaller grifts on the side.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/67 "2022-06-16T22:19:59Z")

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Does the confirmation code translate to anything in English. Rot13? Leet? It looks as if it ought to, anyway.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/68 "2022-06-16T22:24:00Z")

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Nope. I used a random sequence generator.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/69 "2022-06-16T22:25:29Z")

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Dang. I was hoping for a fabulous insult to the scammer.

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/70 "2022-06-16T22:28:24Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Dang. I was hoping for a fabulous insult to the scammer. -

When I get to that stage, I want it to be crystal clear.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/71 "2022-06-17T16:51:38Z")

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OK, I’ve had a second scambaiting going though nothing of interest until now. Just the basic “you’ve won a 2.8 million dollar ATM card, send fee” scam.  
I sent them a fake payment and got the response this morning.

I was thanked for the payment and they’re shipping the card with a logistics company (coming in four days) and here’s a link for tracking the progress. “Tracking”, r-i-i-g-h-t.  
My response: “Looking forward to receiving my card. No way I’m clicking on that fucking link, though.”

After some research, I found the following.  
I did a search on Dex Logistics Delivery Company, no exact matches.  
Did a search on dexlogs. com came up a blank page.  
Added “/enter” as it was in the email, got the front page.  
Looks to be a container ship/cargo logistics.  
🚩 Domain lookup showed it’s only a year and a half old.  
🚩 No company history mentioning a recent name change.  
🚩No mention of courier services. No indication how a card is coming from Uganda to the US in only four days  
🚩 Company banner included logos of “our partners” (DHL, FedEx, UPS, TNT) all distorted.  
🚩 company logo included the partner logos in one image named fedaax.png

Obviously a bait site for suckers. Either the link had a tracker like [Grabify](https://grabify.link/) or the shipment progress search box was a tracker.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/72 "2022-06-17T23:11:36Z")

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Just got a Medicare call. “Calling about your Medicare coverage”. (Company not identified) Then I was called by my real name, first time that’s happened. So I threw a wrench into the works(I hope) by claiming not to be that person, I’m Peter Mosse born Feb 21 1960. The “agent” accepted that then passed me on to the next idiot.

He reconfirmed the information, verified that I don’t yet have a doctor since I recently moved then said I would be on hold for the next agent.

He then picked up and tried to pretend to be the next agent thinking I wouldn’t recognize his voice. By now I’m playing a bit pissed off.

Next agent comes on, a woman this time, starts her spiel and then the kicker. She asks how much I’m paying for home security and internet.  
I demand she tell me why she wants to know and she said the next agent would answer that.  
Right in the middle of demanding an answer from her, she hung up.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/73 "2022-06-18T16:17:26Z")

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Anyone getting this “Google” survey win an iPad popups?  
Well i did the simple survey and Won, shocking! All I had to do was furnish credit card info to pay the shipping fee, a modest amount \<$3.00. I used a debit card expiring this month where I had the minimun $10 to keep open just to see the reaction. Charge was declined, a couple other attempts were made. Fraud folks at the card company were right on it with email and phone call to me inside of 24 hours. New card coming and charges never were paid.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/74 "2022-06-18T16:26:23Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Charge was declined, a couple other attempts were made. -

Was there an attempt to overcharge or was that not stated?

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/75 "2022-06-18T16:36:31Z")

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Not stated but two of the attempts were from different states.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/76 "2022-06-18T16:55:00Z")

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I often wondered if those would try to max out any card they got ahold of.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/77 "2022-06-18T17:56:56Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Well i did the simple survey and Won, shocking! All I had to do was furnish credit card info to pay the shipping fee, a modest amount \<$3.00. I used a debit card expiring this month where I had the minimun $10 to keep open just to see the reaction.

I’ve got an old debit card with about 25 cents left on it which I use to play with “Rachel From Card Services” scammers (along with a list of pregenerated “test” numbers that pass the first stages of verification but don’t have an associated account).

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/78 "2022-06-20T11:30:41Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
>
> OK, I’ve had a second scambaiting going though nothing of interest until now. Just the basic “you’ve won a 2.8 million dollar ATM card, send fee” scam.  
> I sent them a fake payment and got the response this morning.
> 
> I was thanked for the payment and they’re shipping the card with a logistics company (coming in four days) and here’s a link for tracking the progress. “Tracking”, r-i-i-g-h-t.  
> My response: “Looking forward to receiving my card. No way I’m clicking on that fucking link, though.”

_They’re still trying!_

> I am writing this mail to inform you that i receive a call from our mailing agent that your ATMcard was on hold at airport in London by Custom and they are demanding Custom clearance certificate which is going to cost you $570 so am advise you to try and send the fee through western union or money gram with the information below to enable him obtain the certificate and carry on the delivery

Good thing I didn’t have to send it to a specific airport in London.  
Just sent a Western Union receipt(similar format to the bank receipt) so we’ll see how far they’re going to push this.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/79 "2022-06-20T17:36:17Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Just got an answer.
> 
> > Hello Mr. Mosse,
> > 
> > Your email is well received and once your payment is confirmed then you will be notified. I will schedule payment on Monday once your payment is confirmed today or tomorrow.
> 
> Of course, the next step is to accuse him of lying about not getting the money.

The dimbulb is complaining the money hasn’t arrived yet. I just told him I talked to my bank and was told the transfer went through as I wouldn’t have gotten the confirmation if it hadn’t. I speculated the bank is playing the float. Lets see if he understands that.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scam-internet-and-otherwise-omnibus-thread/962265/80 "2022-06-20T17:48:16Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
>
> Just sent a Western Union receipt(similar format to the bank receipt) so we’ll see how far they’re going to push this.

Unfortunately they can check the numbers on-line without stepping foot in the WU office.

When I scambaited, I always used MoneyGram as I knew they’d have to go there in person and couldn’t check it on line [not sure if that is still the case nowadays]

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