Scam (Internet and Otherwise) Omnibus Thread

(earlier this morning)

Hello son

I’m not your son. I’m likely older than you.

What do you want?

Peter Mosse

Mosse the transaction is not fond
(screenshot of Moneygram page showing a failed transaction)

The reference number is not correct

Then how did it get picked up?

Peter Mosse
(with the confirmation from a few posts up)

That’s not a reference number

And he haven’t picked up anything, the reference number is not correct

Don’t give me that shit. I always get a confirmation when I send money and you can see it was picked up.

Peter Mosse

I don’t understand what you’re saying, where did it show it was picked up

The scanned ID shows it was picked up.

Peter Mosse

But I showed you a picture saying the reference number isn’t correct

Because it had already been picked up.

Peter Mosse

Peter are you still there

Yeah.

Peter Mosse

Have you confirmed it, the money is still there and the reference number isn’t correct

That’s the reference number Moneygram gave me. This is now a you problem.

I need to hear from Moneygram regarding this.

Make a complain, tell them that the reference number isn’t correct, the money is still in your account right? It never left

No, it’s not in my account.

You’re the recipient. You make the complain.

Peter Mosse

It’s still in your account, here’s my direct account, just send it to me directly, I don’t want any mistakes this time

Surname : Imariagbe Moses

IBAN : FR7628233000010926411182492

Bic REVOFRP2

Bank: Revolut

Adresse : 97 avenue sciences 13000 Nice

Country : France

My bank doesn’t do international wires. I’ve heard something about bitcoins, does that work overseas?

Peter Mosse

You want to send it true Bitcoin?

I don’t know, is it better than false Bitcoin?

Peter Mosse

1JUdbxYEndeDzpx9puLdpE4ztaYQWvUVNn

Phone call today:

Me: Hello?
Caller: Hi - this is your nephew calling.
Me. Hi - which one?
Caller: Guess.
Me (picking a random name that doesn’t belong to any of my nephews): George?
Caller: Right! Now I need your help.
Me: I hope it doesn’t involve money.
Caller: Unfortunately it does.

I hung up at this point, so I didn’t hear a bail bond story or something similar.

let me correct that:

All my spells are Guaranteed and has no effects.

I got my first two text scams in the last two weeks. One was from PG&E warning me that my electricity was about to be turned off. The other was from USPS, who couldn’t read the address on the package they wanted to deliver, but fortunately they knew my phone number. Oh, did you know that USPS uses a hotmail address?

Man, they aren’t even trying anymore. No screaming or panic by your putative relation, all said in a monotone no doubt. “Yeah Auntie I’m in a jam can ya bail me out thanks…”

Looks like he figured out the bitcoin was fake. Oh, well.

This has to be one of the most low effort IDs I’ve seen. Yet some people will believe it’s real.

That looks worse than a 12 year olds effort to make their first fake id.

My MIL called me, a couple years back, asking “Where is your son right now?”. Mentally thinking he meant HER son (i.e. my husband) I said “He’s downstairs”.

“Oh good. I just got a call claiming to be your son”. IIRC from the call, he addressed her as “Grandma” (which is what he calls her; there’s an argument for using a cutesy name like “MiMi” or the like). She tried verifying he was who he was by asking “what’s my favorite animal”, and he said “Cats” which was a safe guess (and happens to be true). Not sure what else twigged her to the fact that it was a scam. I don’t remember whether the caller gave my son’s name, either; I’m sure some grandparent scammers have enough info to be able to provide that.

“My son” was claiming to be in a nearby state, one which he could plausibly have been (though he was not; he was at college in our home state).

I think sometimes people volunteer the name, as in, “David, is that you?” That probably makes it easier for the scammer.

Gotta ask more specific questions, like the actual name of a pet.

Good point! And along the lines of “MiMi” versus “Grandma”, it’s not a bad idea to have some answers set up in advance that are NOT true. e.g. your favorite pet is a capybara named Mister Barky von Schnauzer or whatever. This would prevent even a diligent scammer from being able to come up with the correct answers.

You guys know all you are doing is tormenting some slave who will be beaten for wasting the master’s time. Please stop. You are not as funny as you think you are. Just block and move on with your lives.

At the store tonight, I saw that they put up warning signs about the gift card cons, including that government agencies don’t do that.

Good for them

Would you like to expand on this? Are you saying that the individual scammers aren’t worth bothering because the profit goes to someone else? Because, if so I most strongly disagree. These people are predators, and even if they share their profit with others, it’s at best a comparison between the pirate robbing you as opposed to the pirate captain that pointed them at your ship. They’re both reprehensible criminals, and if someone wants to tie them up in knots, and take time away they could be going after the NEXT innocent, I’ll cheer them on even if I won’t do it myself.

Fuck 'em, they know what they’re doing. Even if they’re not the boss, they’re hardly slaves.

FYI, here is a link to a New York Times article about a forced labor camp in Myanmar where people are forced to work for gangs scamming money.

(I tried to provide a gift link but for some reason, the NYT website wouldn’t let me.)

I can’t read it. Everything I get is almost all from around Nigeria or Uganda, both full of voluntary scammers.

John Oliver had a long segment on this, including interviews with a couple of slaves who escaped. People are lured with promises of legitimate work, their documents are seized and they are given scripts and told what to do. If they fall out of line they are tortured. They no more make money than American slaves shared in cotton profits. The people making money never see your oh so witty responses.

Seriously, the episode is on YouTube. It’s eye opening.