# scammy, you're a fucking troll

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 26, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297 "2011-05-26T15:15:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/21 "2011-05-27T06:31:01Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> well trolling and uncomfortable are always close neighbours.

Not really.

> [@scamartistry](#):
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> I have in this instance chosen to take the high road.

By sabotaging a legitimate possible discussion with trolling? That is not the “high” road unless it involves pot or crystal meth.

> [@scamartistry](#):
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> If you deny the immense impact the africans has had on european and US culture, then that is your take on it.

You never raised the issue of “immense impact,” which would have been a legitimate point. Instead, you falsely overstated a claim that the (what you now refer to as) “impact” was the be-all and end-all of influence.

Stop weaseling about what you now pretend was your intention. You already destroyed your credibility and no one is going to believe you.

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**Author:** ![constanze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@constanze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/constanze)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/22 "2011-05-27T11:17:35Z")

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> Without the influence from black people . the europeans would never have been able to go come this far

Without having read any of his other posts or context (his posts in this thread are hard to read and understand) - he is actually right of course.

The human race came from Africa, so without Africa, there would be no Europeans around, either. (Or a different species, maybe).

The rest of his post may be debatable. Carry on.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/23 "2011-05-27T11:31:36Z")

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I think it’s possible **scamartistry** is not trolling. Unfortunately the other option is that he’s dim, has poor communication skills, and doesn’t know how to make an argument. **scamartistry** , the topic as posted was very, very stupid. If you’re not trolling, why did you make that post in Great Debates and a much better one in the Pit?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/24 "2011-05-27T12:18:38Z")

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SCAMMY, you’re a fucking troll,  
I fuck you out of the scammies…

scammy, you’re a fucking troll,  
Your fleece is white as snow…

Scammy! You’re a! Fucking troll,  
In the forests of the… eh, I got nothin’.

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/25 "2011-05-27T12:41:10Z")

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White Americans didn’t invent slavery, but they sure as hell fought a very bloody and costly war to put an end to it in this country. Slavery existed in Africa before the white man ever came, and still exists there TODAY.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/26 "2011-05-27T12:56:28Z")

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> [@constanze](#):
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> Without having read any of his other posts or context (his posts in this thread are hard to read and understand) - he is actually right of course.
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> The human race came from Africa, so without Africa, there would be no Europeans around, either. (Or a different species, maybe).

But that belittles the enormous influence the Pangaeans had on the later African cultures.

Don’t we have some sort of checklist for the various steps trolls go through?

1. Troll posts provocative, incoherent nonsense

2. People point out that it is indeed incoherent nonsense.

3. Troll smirks that clearly he (or, rarely, she) is being persecuted for challenging the sheeple groupthink of the board and that clearly the rest of us are all too awed by the troll’s intellectual prowess and grasp of the real truth to be able to refute the aforementioned incoherent nonsense.

4. After a few repetitions of steps 2) and 3) the thread degenerates into general abuse.

5. Thread gets locked.

6. Troll starts five more threads of the same sort and likely on the same topic.

7. Troll gets banned.

Did I miss anything out?

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/27 "2011-05-27T13:20:00Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> To make it short, not scientific based **(born in mongolia myself)**, I have never seen any scientific study showing that blacks would cause violence. BUT i have read about violence related to white europeans (ie early americans, germans ww2) etc etc. I know you should never categorize people, but this is what I see. White educated people is the most violence force the world has ever seen. Can anyone refute this??

I think if [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan) guy (also born in Mongolia) were still around, he’d offer a pretty strong refutation of your “thesis”.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/28 "2011-05-27T14:29:55Z")

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NM.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/29 "2011-05-27T14:42:46Z")

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> [@constanze](#):
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> Without having read any of his other posts or context (his posts in this thread are hard to read and understand) - he is actually right of course.
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> The human race came from Africa, so without Africa, there would be no Europeans around, either. (Or a different species, maybe).
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> The rest of his post may be debatable. Carry on.

You just made the fundie shit list, my friend.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/30 "2011-05-27T14:44:59Z")

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> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#):
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> White Americans didn’t invent slavery, but they sure as hell fought a very bloody and costly war to put an end to it in this country. Slavery existed in Africa before the white man ever came, and still exists there TODAY.

God Bless White America! [Seriously, I guess this is true, but what the hell does this have to do with any of **scamartistry** ’s gibberish?]

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/31 "2011-05-27T14:53:09Z")

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> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#):
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> White Americans didn’t invent slavery, but they sure as hell fought a very bloody and costly war to put an end to it in this country. Slavery existed in Africa before the white man ever came, and still exists there TODAY.

Under that reasoning slavery **did not** in fact end in your country and still exists today also.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/32 "2011-05-27T15:47:17Z")

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Part of post #28 of the GD thread is this:

> [@scamartistry](#):
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> I take it you are a white person, you have never seen the effects of structural racism Ill take it. If you are a black male in 2011 you see racism every single days. If you are being hassled every single day, you will steal a car sooner or later.

So, every black male in America is going to steal a car sooner or later?

> [@scamartistry](#):
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> Not my point, of course the slaves brought their culture to the us. Without the influence from Africa, Us would be nothing but anarchy. (nb. my theory)

So, without our cars being stolen, chaos would erupt?

How does that compare to this post (this thread):

> [@scamartistry](#):
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> Without the crash course in morality that african’s brought to the americas, the development would have looked very very different.

Morality? But I thought they steal cars? Or is stealing cars a moral act?

In conclusion, considering that you admit to being born in Mongolia, and not being a native English speaker (post # 18 this thread), may I humbly suggest that you may not know the U.S. as well as you think you do.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/33 "2011-05-27T20:03:32Z")

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I’m pretty sure Scammy doesn’t actually believe what he’s saying. He’s really doing a decent trolling job here.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/34 "2011-05-27T21:20:48Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> “Who are you and how did you get in here?” “I’m a locksmith. And I’m a locksmith.”
> 
> Well, if we can do Airplane quotes, we should be allowed to do Police Squad quotes, too.

I’d rather do [whole skits.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa5XLny8Wmc&NR=1)

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammy-youre-a-fucking-troll/583297/35 "2011-05-28T02:38:33Z")

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> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#):
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> White Americans didn’t invent slavery, but they sure as hell fought a very bloody and costly war to put an end to it in this country. Slavery existed in Africa before the white man ever came, and still exists there TODAY.

White Americans did invent the color line, which is the source of most of America’s current ethnic tensions.

[http://backintyme.com/essays/item/12](http://backintyme.com/essays/item/12)

Don’t try to weasel out of this with fake claims of nobility. They invented an idiotic, immoral, impractical system to maintain the profits of the landed gentry, and their descendants died in a bloody war as a result. Entirely America’s fault.

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