# Scary new Dr Who trailer. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 24, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558 "2009-08-24T22:22:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acorns.but_not_Bacon)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/1 "2009-08-24T22:22:49Z")
which you can watch here [BBC - Doctor Who - The Waters of Mars - Episode Guide](http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/episodes/S0_07) This looks…intense! ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/2 "2009-08-24T22:25:56Z")
/Shaking fist at BBC Can us North Americans see it anywhere? ---
**Author:** ![Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acorns.but_not_Bacon)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/3 "2009-08-24T22:29:30Z")
Everyone can watch it here [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClNAiVhcIMA](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClNAiVhcIMA) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/4 "2009-08-24T23:03:02Z")
Reminiscent of John Carpenter’s The Thing at all? ---
**Author:** ![Weston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8797f3/32.png) [@Weston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weston)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/5 "2009-08-24T23:08:41Z")
It will be written by Russell T. Davies so therefore it will probably be a bit lame. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/6 "2009-08-24T23:36:59Z")
Scary indeed! I’m hoping BBC America reruns Planet of the Dead at least once before they get around to showing this one (next summer, I’ll presume). /Shakes fist at myself for missing PotD’s first (and so far only) broadcast ---
**Author:** ![Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acorns.but_not_Bacon)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/7 "2009-08-25T00:28:00Z")
Eh, you’re not missing much fiddlesticks 😉 POTD was the worst episode so far, the only good thing was part of the end. The female temporary assistant was a horrible character that you couldn’t warm to, also she was originally going to be a full time assistant for the new Doctor but the new doc said she was a “cow”, I _think_ he meant her character though not the actress herself. So she was scrapped. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/8 "2009-08-25T04:53:24Z")
What do you think about [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSaMpxsYRFI&NR=1) trailer? ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/9 "2009-08-25T05:05:36Z")
> [@Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](#): > > …she was originally going to be a full time assistant for the new Doctor but the new doc said she was a “cow”, I _think_ he meant her character though not the actress herself. So she was scrapped. Sorry to simulpost, but I missed the edit window. But…this is something I have not heard, nor seen mentioned anywhere else. Could you elaborate on this? ---
**Author:** ![Monkey\_Chews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Monkey\_Chews](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monkey_Chews)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/10 "2009-08-25T05:18:15Z")
> [@Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](#): > > The female temporary assistant was a horrible character that you couldn’t warm to Yes I could. I quite liked her. > [@](#): > > also she was originally going to be a full time assistant for the new Doctor but the new doc said she was a “cow”, I _think_ he meant her character though not the actress herself. So she was scrapped. Are you sure about that? Where did that info come from? Everything I’ve ever read says she was always intended to be a one-off (as are all the companions in the specials until Christmas). ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/11 "2009-08-25T05:55:26Z")
> [@Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](#): > > The female temporary assistant was a horrible character that you couldn’t warm to, also she was originally going to be a full time assistant for the new Doctor but the new doc said she was a “cow”, I _think_ he meant her character though not the actress herself. So she was scrapped. The actress did as decent a job as you can expect with a character who was basically Lara Croft with the serial numbers filed off. ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/12 "2009-08-25T07:16:10Z")
I thought Lady Christina was a fine one-off (which she was intended to be) in an episode that was meant to be the Doctor’s last romp before things get really serious. > [@Pushkin](#): > > Reminiscent of John Carpenter’s The Thing at all? The scenario of monsters stalking the occupants of an isolated outpost is hardly unusual. It looks like the infected people are easily identifiable and at least one of the main characters is a woman, so there go two of the distinctive characteristics of that movie. > [@The New and Improved Superman](#): > > What do you think about [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSaMpxsYRFI&NR=1) trailer? In a thread about trailers, it’s OK to discuss series spoilers that come from the trailers themselves, right? The critical part of my brain says you can’t keep sending characters off with big emotional goodbyes if you’re going to bring them right back! At least wait a couple of years for their return from death, parallel worlds, whatever. Of course these could be figures in a dream, but it’s hard to imagine that not being hokey. The fanboy part of my brain is squealing “they’re back!” But even it’s a little concerned about how they intend to handle Donna. If it turns out it’s OK for her to remember after all, that negates the most poignant moment in the series so far. (Sorry, Billie, it’s true. One of your sobbing scenes might have made it if there hadn’t been so _many_ of them.) If it turns into a game of hiding the Doctor and the Tardis from Donna while she stomps around yakking into her cell phone, that’ll be pathetic. If it’s a cameo where she doesn’t participate in the plot, what’s the point? And if she remembers and her head explodes\* – well, I just don’t think that would be a nice thing to have happen. - Having rewatched “The Age of Steel” recently, I mean that literally. Apparently human brains under severe stress explode with sufficient force to shatter steel. The things you learn from TV… ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/13 "2009-08-25T08:39:02Z")
I will be looking forward to the summer of 2012 when it premiers on BBCA. ETA: I hope they edit it enough to fit in more deoderant commercials and clip some basic plot development. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/14 "2009-08-25T08:39:10Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > I thought Lady Christina was a fine one-off (which she was intended to be) in an episode that was meant to be the Doctor’s last romp before things get really serious.. Oh gawd no! A woman who steals priceless historical artifacts from the public just for fun? ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/15 "2009-08-25T08:56:18Z")
> [@Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](#): > > POTD was the worst episode so far, the only good thing was part of the end. The female temporary assistant was a horrible character that you couldn’t warm to, also she was originally going to be a full time assistant for the new Doctor but the new doc said she was a “cow”, I _think_ he meant her character though not the actress herself. So she was scrapped. I echo other posters - what is your cite for this? In [this interview\* with Michelle Ryan (Lady Christina)](http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/episodes/?episode=S0_06&character=&action=videostream&playlist=/doctorwho/playlists/s0_06/video/s0_06_bts_07.xml&video=1&date=&summary=Watch%20an%20interview%20with%20actress%20Michelle%20Ryan.&info=&info2=&info3=&tag_file_id=s0_06_bts_07), there is no mention of being considered as a full-time companion. \*apparently only available in the UK, sorry other Dopers. :o ---
**Author:** ![Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acorns.but_not_Bacon)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/16 "2009-08-25T12:55:54Z")
For the whole Michelle Ryan as a companion thing - It was along the lines that after she filmed her scenes there was talk of her coming back to be a full time companion for Matt Smith (new doc), Matt Smith (new doc) didn’t like this, quote cow comment and so the producers thought if Matt wasn’t comfortable then they wouldn’t bring her back. I read it in a tv guide with an interview with one of the producers, it was back when POTD was on tv and I think it was an article with quotes from producers throughout said article. Yes, that’s what I can remember. I just searched for it online but couldn’t find anything, which is frustrating but can assure you that I definitely read this _shrug_ ah well. ---
**Author:** ![Scruff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Scruff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scruff)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/17 "2009-08-25T16:37:10Z")
> [@WarmNPrickly](#): > > I will be looking forward to the summer of 2012 when it premiers on BBCA. > > ETA: I hope they edit it enough to fit in more deoderant commercials and clip some basic plot development. Hey, BBCA has started showing some 1-hour shows in a 75 minute slot (Torchwood:Children of Earth, Dr Who, Top Gear…) so maybe we’ll get all all the show **and** the world’s supply of deoderant commercials. Note that I pull this info from my TiVo, so if it is mere coincidence then I am revealed as a mere idiot. ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/18 "2009-08-25T17:13:55Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Oh gawd no! A woman who steals priceless historical artifacts from the public just for fun? Gawd no what? I’m not choosing her to be my running mate, I’m just saying she was a perfectly adequate character for a one-hour sci-fi action comedy with a bit of death and mayhem thrown in. As a regular companion she would have been no better than Adam, but - by all the best evidence available - she was never intended as such. Besides, did you see that cup she stole? It wasn’t all that. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/19 "2009-08-25T20:37:29Z")
> [@Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](#): > > It was along the lines that after she filmed her scenes there was talk of her coming back to be a full time companion for Matt Smith (new doc), Matt Smith (new doc) didn’t like this, quote cow comment and so the producers thought if Matt wasn’t comfortable then they wouldn’t bring her back. I really don’t remember hearing that. Everything I’ve read has said that Michelle Ryan was always considered as just a one-off character. Doing a Google search for the words “cow” “Michelle Ryan” & “Doctor Who” don’t bring up anything mentioning that quote except for this thread and I would think such a comment would have gotten around. > [@Russel T Davies](#): > > Finally, he spoke a bit about the most recent Doctor Who special, airing on BBC America July 26. Asked if there was any consideration of making “Planet of the Dead” co-star Michelle Ryan the next companion, Davies answered, “Well not really. We absolutely love Michelle but she’s so in-demand, we only approached her for one episode. I think actually, if we’d have approached her for more episodes, she wouldn’t have been available at all.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558/20 "2009-08-25T20:46:47Z")
> [@Scruff](#): > > Hey, BBCA has started showing some 1-hour shows in a 75 minute slot (Torchwood:Children of Earth, Dr Who, Top Gear…) so maybe we’ll get all all the show **and** the world’s supply of deoderant commercials. > > Note that I pull this info from my TiVo, so if it is mere coincidence then I am revealed as a mere idiot. You are correct, sir! Being Human is also given a 75-minute slot, which is greatly appreciated by this Yank. Hopefully this is a permanent change. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scary-new-dr-who-trailer/507558.md?page=2)