# Scenes that completely ruined a film

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**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [April 30, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675 "2025-04-30T01:07:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> It was already pretty much down the tubes for me, but…
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> when Jack Nicholson aka Jack Torrance is shown to be typing ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY over and over again instead of working on his novel.

I guess _you didn’t like it_? 😈

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> Okay, so there’s no vestige of the complex Jack who wants to be a literary giant and a good husband and father, and whose petulance makes sense in light of how he falls short of his own aspirations and all that shit, huh? Just this grinning evil goblin?

The Grinning Evil made for some pretty good scenes.

A bigger problem for me was the inexplicable attraction that Wendy (the Shelley Duvall character) initially had for Jack Torrance, and vice versa.

I also thought the gross-out banquet scene from _Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom_ detracted from the movie.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/42 "2025-04-30T17:36:07Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> > [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > Yeah, that spoiled the franchise for me.
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> I still hate the prequels…
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> but I just “hear what I want to hear” that midichor..whatever are a _measure_ of a person’s force-sensitivity, not the _cause_.

“That’s not how The Force works.” - Han Solo…to Qui-Gon Jinn

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/43 "2025-04-30T17:58:21Z")

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Die Hard With A Vengeance

Great film BUT that ending is hot garbage, it should have ended on the boat. Instead we take a 10 minute detour into Canada for an incredibly limp ending where the bad guys just kind of randomly give up? I know the ending was a reshoot but it’s incredibly obvious they had no idea how to end that otherwise great movie.

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**Author:** ![Scoobysnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Scoobysnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoobysnax)\
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I was pulled out of the movie by the fact that the communicator used while discussing Midichlorians was [clearly a women’s razor that had some plastic pieces glued to it and spray pained](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hush-98_comlink/Legends).

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/45 "2025-04-30T18:12:56Z")

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On Her Majesty’s Secret Service

The scene where Bond is imitating the expert who is supposed to be doing Blofelds ancestry research. The film makes the utterly baffling decision to have the actual ancestry expert dub over James Bond/Lazenby’s voice, so there’s an entire 30 minute section of this movie where you see Bond talk but it’s not Bonds voice for literally no reason.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/46 "2025-04-30T18:20:07Z")

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> [@Scoobysnax](#):
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> I was pulled out of the movie by the fact that the communicator used while discussing Midichlorians was [clearly a women’s razor that had some plastic pieces glued to it and spray pained](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hush-98_comlink/Legends).

I did find it strange that they used such a ubiquitous commercial product so … Visibly.

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
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I’d always assumed that Lazenby struggled to do another accent so they chose to use the other actor’s voice. Although why he couldn’t continue to use the same voice, I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/48 "2025-04-30T18:31:27Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> that midichor..whatever are a _measure_ of a person’s force-sensitivity, not the _cause_.

They’re a secondary infestation. They’ve evolved to live off the Force, and so highly Force-sensitive people are of course better host vessels for them, and so have a higher count.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
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Force lice.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/50 "2025-04-30T18:41:18Z")

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Force STD. All that “Monastic lifestyle” nonsense was the Jedi trying to control the spread.

They didn’t succeed, of course, which implies a whole lot of Jedi-boinking going on behind the scenes.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/51 "2025-04-30T18:50:07Z")

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> [@Kron](#):
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> I did find it strange that they used such a ubiquitous commercial product so … Visibly.

TBF, all of the blasters were readily-available firearms with bits attached. (Solo’s Mauser C96, the stormtroopers’ Sterlings. Here are other examples from [_The Empire Strikes Back_](https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/The_Empire_Strikes_Back).)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/52 "2025-04-30T19:02:13Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> Force lice.

I’m one with the lice, and the lice is with me

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
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For me, it was when she ditched the cat in the rain, in an area he probably wasn’t familiar with. Instant total hate for the character, and I won’t be watching that movie again. (pauses to hug junior cat, who spent years as a stray in our apartment complex after being similarly dumped by his so-called “human”)

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/54 "2025-04-30T20:45:10Z")

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> [@Seanette](#):
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> For me, it was when she ditched the cat in the rain, in an area he probably wasn’t familiar with. Instant total hate for the character, and I won’t be watching that movie again.

&nbsp; On the whole, I was thoroughly unimpressed with what was supposed to be **the** definitive Audrey Hepburn movie.&nbsp; Her character just seemed completely unrelatable and unsympathetic to me.&nbsp; A flaky, irresponsible bimbo.

&nbsp; There’s an interesting connection between that and two other movies, that I have noticed.

&nbsp; In _The Lovely Bones_, there is a character that calls herself _“Holly Golightly”_, which is the name by which Ms. Hepburn’s character went in _Breakfast at Tiffany’s_.&nbsp; In both movies, it comes out that that’s not the character’s real name.

&nbsp; In _The Lovely Bones_, the main character dies not very far into the movie, and _“Holly”_ serves as her guide in the afterlife.&nbsp; In Audrey Hepburn’s last movie, _Always_, she plays a character who serves an almost identical role, serving as a guide for a man who has just died.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/55 "2025-04-30T20:54:04Z")

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Well, wasn’t that exactly what her character would do?  
People think BaT is a romance, and it is, sort of.  
But, it’s also a character study of a _terrible_ human being. “Holly” is a self-centered user, who ditched her husband and is now using her good looks to skate through life in NYC. Ditching her cat when it becomes inconvenient is exactly when she has done all throughout her life.  
Her “redemption” occurs when she decides to commit - to the cat and to Paul.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/56 "2025-04-30T20:59:21Z")

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The “skateboarding elf” in Lord Of the Rings Return of the King. I am still mad about that. Like they made this incredible cinematic version of Tolkien, clearly showing they really got Tolkien and understood the mythos. Then at the climactic moment of the whole story decided to throw in a bunch of Hollywood bullshit that ruined it (for me anyway).

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/57 "2025-04-30T21:23:21Z")

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> [@Bob\_Blaylock](#):
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> Her character just seemed completely unrelatable and unsympathetic to me. A flaky, irresponsible bimbo.

I’ll go farther. She’s a high class prostitute, but the kind that takes your money and disappears. She goes on these dates with rich men and runs away before the sexytime can happen. I’m sure the men are not pleased. It’s a dangerous way to live, and so far she has been lucky.

> [@beowulff](#):
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> But, it’s also a character study of a _terrible_ human being. “Holly” is a self-centered user,

Exactly. I’d like to like the film, but I just can’t.

But I liked Hep in _Always_. (and _Robin and Marion_)

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/58 "2025-04-30T21:28:44Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Like, does this seem like something the average audience member is just dying to do? I know, different strokes different folks, but buttsex doesn’t appeal to me at all (TMI!).

I think a good portion of the audience might be quite interested. Granted, it’s not for everyone, but it’s not exactly a rare sexual act.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/59 "2025-04-30T21:32:23Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Granted, it’s not for everyone

I think that’s the thing that bugs me. The film just assumes everyone does.

You could get nearly 100% audience agreement if she was offering straight sex. But they went _there_. I think it distracts (not ruins).

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-that-completely-ruined-a-film/1017675/60 "2025-04-30T21:42:47Z")

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> [@griffin1977](#):
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> The “skateboarding elf” in Lord Of the Rings Return of the King. I am still mad about that. Like they made this incredible cinematic version of Tolkien, clearly showing they really got Tolkien and understood the mythos. Then at the climactic moment of the whole story decided to throw in a bunch of Hollywood bullshit that ruined it (for me anyway).

Same battle, different bit: when the Rohirrim see the Oliphaunts come into view and Theoden says “Reform the line!” Dude, when the animals on the other side are 20-25 feet tall, you ain’t the _heavy_ cavalry any more.

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