# Scenes/themes in Star Treck blatantly plagiarized from the Starship Troopers movie **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 22, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317 "2009-05-22T18:41:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cornelius_Tuggerson)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/1 "2009-05-22T18:41:26Z")
You knew this was coming. Just off the top of my head: 1. Enterprise/Rodger Young critically hit, people rushing to escape shuttles, someone ends up in outer space without a space suit. 2. Mobile Infantry/Fleet rushing to their shuttles before major action. 3. The top of Enterprise/Rodger Young hit by a large object in space after coming out of warp. 4. Protagonist rapidly rising through the ranks due to people above him getting killed. 5. Ibanez/Kirk flying around a terran/federation hub in a shuttle marveling at the grandness of it and their own comparative insignificance. There are many, many more. I can’t believe you people bash ST and get all giddy about Star Treck, sometimes I feel like I don’t even know you anymore. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/2 "2009-05-22T18:58:58Z")
You really think ST invented \*any \*of those? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/3 "2009-05-22T19:12:24Z")
Oh, that is funny. Maybe we can do a “What Star Trek plagarized from (fill in the blank with any movie)” I know they ripped off the scene with the green girl from “Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid” except in the older movie the girl wasn’t green, and no one hid under a bed. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/4 "2009-05-22T19:14:40Z")
Aaand we’ve come [full circle](http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1910892). ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/5 "2009-05-22T19:30:27Z")
I’m pretty sure Starship Troopers was a movie made almost entirely by the mildly retarded. Except _Kommisar Dougie_, he’s the tits. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/6 "2009-05-22T19:34:05Z")
Being confronted by giant beasts on a hostile planet ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/7 "2009-05-22T19:34:59Z")
> [@Bearflag70](#): > > Being confronted by giant beasts on a hostile planet Hell, that’s any weekend during football season. ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/8 "2009-05-22T19:37:56Z")
Not sure why I had to know this was coming (unless you are well know as a ST geek among these parts). I think a mistake many make is thinking the first time they saw something in their generation, or when they were coming of age, is the first time “it” took place. There is an adage that there is no such thing as an original thought. Might be some truth to that. 1. Ever hear of the movie Titanic? Came out in 1997. Or 1958, or 1953 or 1943. 2. Just about any movie with a Marine in it. 3. Most Navy films, have some guy coming up the ladder, just in time to eat a shell. Ditto Army flicks with bunkers and trenches 4. Not sure this is something good. I had serious heart ache with a senior in college getting command of Star Fleet’s flagship, but I digress. The junior guy getting command and getting test is also very old. 12 O’clock High form 1958 is one version. A classic film btw, viewed by most (US) military academy students 5. Missed the first Star Trek movie in '79, didn’t ya? ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/9 "2009-05-22T19:51:01Z")
_Treck_? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/10 "2009-05-22T20:37:30Z")
Don’t forget the initials “ST”. Star Trek clearly ripped that off. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/11 "2009-05-22T22:29:46Z")
> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#): > > 1. Ibanez/Kirk flying around a terran/federation hub in a shuttle marveling at the grandness of it and their own comparative insignificance. I thought Starship Troopers plagerised this from Star Trek I: the transporter was out of commission, so Kirk has to go up to the new Enterprise the old fashioned way, by shuttle, and takes a leisurely tour of inspection. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/12 "2009-05-22T22:49:19Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I thought Starship Troopers plagerised this from Star Trek I: the transporter was out of commission, so Kirk has to go up to the new Enterprise the old fashioned way, by shuttle, and takes a leisurely tour of inspection. And in Star Trek I it wasn’t only for “marveling at the grandness of it and their own comparative insignificance.” It was a way to say “We finally got a big budget - In your face NBC!” So it was much more meaningful. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/13 "2009-05-22T23:36:13Z")
> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#): > > There are many, many more. I can’t believe you people bash ST and get all giddy about Star Treck, sometimes I feel like I don’t even know you anymore. 😛 I’ll give you this much. Starfleet and the military from starship troopers are both run by complete morons. Though at least the military from starship troopers acknowledges the existence of enlisted people and NCO’s, one thing star trek has failed utterly at in almost every incarnation. ---
**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/14 "2009-05-23T00:14:33Z")
Have you seen [this video](http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1910892) then? Funny… ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/15 "2009-05-23T01:11:28Z")
> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#): > > 1. Enterprise/Rodger Young critically hit, people rushing to escape shuttles, someone ends up in outer space without a space suit. In the pilot episode _Deep Space 9_ Sisko and others escape after Borg ship critically hits a Star Fleet vessel, and, though I might be mistaken, _First Contact_ had people being in outer space without suits. > [@](#): > > 1. Mobile Infantry/Fleet rushing to their shuttles before major action. That seems rather generic. > [@](#): > > 1. The top of Enterprise/Rodger Young hit by a large object in space after coming out of warp. Does it have to be the top? Because in _TNG_ there was one episode where the Enterprise was hit several times while caught in a time loop. > [@](#): > > 1. Protagonist rapidly rising through the ranks due to people above him getting killed. ``` This is a bit generic, is it not? ``` > [@](#): > > 1. Ibanez/Kirk flying around a terran/federation hub in a shuttle marveling at the grandness of it and their own comparative insignificance. The same thing happens in _Star Trek the Motion Picture_ when we see the Enterprise for the first time. Odesio ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/16 "2009-05-23T01:51:55Z")
Where Starship Troopers is concerned, I’d consider it not so much “plagiarism” as “salvage operations.” ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/17 "2009-05-23T02:04:13Z")
And did Tolkien rip off Terry Brooks? ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/18 "2009-05-23T02:46:17Z")
> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#): > > You knew this was coming. Just off the top of my head: > > 1. Protagonist rapidly rising through the ranks due to people above him getting killed. The TOS episode “Mirror Mirror” actually had one of the evil characters pointing a gun at kirk and saying “You die and we all move up in rank”. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/19 "2009-05-23T02:56:31Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > The TOS episode “Mirror Mirror” actually had one of the evil characters pointing a gun at kirk and saying “You die and we all move up in rank”. Which was an official way to move up the ranks on an Imperial starship. It’s how Kirk got the chair, though he was a lot more subtle about it than Chekov was being. (Then again, Pike hadn’t committed a crime, so he had to be.) Field promotions, which were what was done in the movie, are more akin to what happened on Voyager, when most of the ranking crewmembers were killed, and the Maquis crew were enlisted, and given field commissions. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/20 "2009-05-23T03:41:16Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > Which was an official way to move up the ranks on an Imperial starship. It’s how Kirk got the chair, though he was a lot more subtle about it than Chekov was being. (Then again, Pike hadn’t committed a crime, so he had to be.) > > Field promotions, which were what was done in the movie, are more akin to what happened on Voyager, when most of the ranking crewmembers were killed, and the Maquis crew were enlisted, and given field commissions. Rather ironic considering Voyager was chasing them with intent to arrest only hours before. Though it’s okay, because Starfleet and the Maquis got along surprisingly well for two groups that didn’t particularly like each other.:rolleyes: [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317.md?page=2)