# Scenes/themes in Star Treck blatantly plagiarized from the Starship Troopers movie

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**Created:** [May 22, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317 "2009-05-22T18:41:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/21 "2009-05-23T05:58:53Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Except _Kommisar Dougie_, he’s the tits.

You mean Doogie Howser, SS?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/22 "2009-05-23T06:01:10Z")

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> [@HPL](#):
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> Rather ironic considering Voyager was chasing them with intent to arrest only hours before.
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> Though it’s okay, because Starfleet and the Maquis got along surprisingly well for two groups that didn’t particularly like each other.:rolleyes:

The only conflict allowed among the characters on _Voyager_, I noticed, was Bellana getting mad at somebody, but that’s okay because she’s Klingon and Klingons are the kewl, or something.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/23 "2009-05-23T07:36:47Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> You really think ST invented \*any \*of those?

They’re all pretty common themes in a lot of SF, especially military SF.

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> 1. Protagonist rapidly rising through the ranks due to people above him getting killed.

This is common in any sort of military fiction, because it’s common in real life.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/24 "2009-05-23T08:52:33Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> You mean Doogie Howser, SS?

He goes by many names. But if you want to find out if the gigantic sessile maggot you just pulled from its nest and surrounded with angry soldiers is afraid, he’s your only shot.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/25 "2009-05-23T11:33:30Z")

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> [@spifflog](#):
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> I think a mistake many make is thinking the first time they saw something in their generation, or when they were coming of age, is the first time “it” took place.

The OP reminds me of my sister (who’s 10 years younger than me) when _Wayne’s World_ came out. "You’ve got to hear this GREAT new song from this movie, " she gushed. “It’s called Bohemian Rhapsody.”

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/26 "2009-05-23T12:09:13Z")

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True “Bohemian Rhapsody” story.

One of our friends has a son about that age. He loved the “Wayne’s World” movie and was appalled that his parents and their friends were able to sing along with Queen.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/27 "2009-05-23T14:02:02Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> He goes by many names.

You might say he’s legen - wait for it! -

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/28 "2009-05-23T15:05:43Z")

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-dary!

High five!

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**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/29 "2009-05-23T20:31:59Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> The only conflict allowed among the characters on _Voyager_, I noticed, was Bellana getting mad at somebody, but that’s okay because she’s Klingon and Klingons are the kewl, or something.

Or when the Brad Dourif character was being crazy- which was nearly always, as it was Brad Dourif. Ah, sociopathic Betazoids.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-themes-in-star-treck-blatantly-plagiarized-from-the-starship-troopers-movie/497317/30 "2009-05-23T20:40:22Z")

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> [@Leiko](#):
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> Or when the Brad Dourif character was being crazy- which was nearly always, as it was Brad Dourif. Ah, sociopathic Betazoids.

Yeah, but it’s not like they had to deal with him in any way, like he had some critical skill they needed so they tolerated him going to the holodeck and living out violent fantasies. Didn’t they lock him up and essentially forget about him until the situation contrived in such a way to let him heroically kill himself off?

I remember that latter episode in he regrettably announces “I may have to kill some of [the attacking Kaezon]” and I was thinking “Yeah, you might have to kill a _lot_ of them, so get busy already.”

That show just didn’t have enough killin’ for my tastes.

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