# Scenes where "bad guy" shows (s)he's not a hypocrite by taking consequences themselves. (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 23, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-where-bad-guy-shows-s-hes-not-a-hypocrite-by-taking-consequences-themselves-spoilers/832936 "2019-04-23T13:37:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-where-bad-guy-shows-s-hes-not-a-hypocrite-by-taking-consequences-themselves-spoilers/832936/21 "2019-04-25T00:42:04Z")
Are we counting war films where the enemy kills himself rather than facing dishonor? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-where-bad-guy-shows-s-hes-not-a-hypocrite-by-taking-consequences-themselves-spoilers/832936/22 "2019-04-25T03:33:04Z")
In Spider-Man #34, v. 1, Kraven the Hunter admitted he had impersonated Spider-Man in order to make him look like a criminal. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-where-bad-guy-shows-s-hes-not-a-hypocrite-by-taking-consequences-themselves-spoilers/832936/23 "2019-04-25T13:58:27Z")
“Deal with the devil” stories often have the devil keeping his word: “The Devil Went Down to Georgia,” “[Dealer’s Choice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dealer%27s_Choice_(The_Twilight_Zone))” (the devil tries to cheat, but once he loses, he honors his word – and gets beer and food for the others). ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-where-bad-guy-shows-s-hes-not-a-hypocrite-by-taking-consequences-themselves-spoilers/832936/24 "2019-04-25T15:27:25Z")
The obvious example is the bridge scene in _Monty Python and the Holy Grail_. Anyone not answering “these questions 3” correctly flies off the bridge into the abyss. When Arthur crosses the bridge and is asked about the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow, he asks for clarification. “What do you mean, an African or European swallow?” The bridge-keeper doesn’t know, so he himself goes flying off into the abyss. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-where-bad-guy-shows-s-hes-not-a-hypocrite-by-taking-consequences-themselves-spoilers/832936/25 "2019-04-25T17:37:32Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > Yes, and an even stronger example from Christie is _And Then There Were None_, . . . I’m trying to remember the name of the Christie novel . . . (Googled: Crooked House). It turns out a child is the multiple murderer. At the end, an elderly relative drives off a cliff with the child in the car. She saw herself as a suitable sacrifice in order to deal with the problem quickly and permanently. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scenes-where-bad-guy-shows-s-hes-not-a-hypocrite-by-taking-consequences-themselves-spoilers/832936.md?page=1)