Schick Shadel--how's it work?

Rehab is for quitters.

I went there five years ago this January, and for me anyway it worked just as advertised. It totally changed my life, and yes I had a blast. I was surrounded by others who were in the same boat I was so there was a lot of camaraderie…

The treatment is brutal but effective…

Maybe the reason it worked so well for me is I was soooo desperate and ready to quit, I think that had a lot to do with it. Also I followed their aftercare instructions to the letter.

Please check them out if you are at the end of the rope with nowhere left to go…

Would you mind describing the treatment you received?

I always wonder what is so objectionable about AA. I’ve been sober for about 25 years. I’m not terribly square, I’m not religious, don’t feel terribly conventional, and acknowledge that there are square, conventional and religious people in AA who drive me nuts. The Big Book is poorly written and has outdated ideas about society, but still has some pretty good ideas about how to improve one’s life. If I’m honest I am agnostic, but I’ve never had a problem with the higher power concept that AA uses. I call it remedial spirituality. The AA program gives me chance to help people who have alcohol problems which then reminds me of why I don’t want to drink. It teaches me to be accountable to others and address my problems head on.

I also know that I love drinking and instead of being physically repulsed by it, I can use my brain to actually remember the negative consequences that occur when I drink and what will happen if I choose to. For the life of me I cannot understand why someone would choose to pay for aversion therapy when AA is really pretty easy and more or less free. Also over the long haul–which is really what matters–AA’s success rate is better than just about anything else.

There was a pretty good article in Wired a few years ago that gave a very neutral and journalistic treatment to AA and the science behind addiction treatment that made me think that AA was probably the best and easiest choice for me.

That is a statement that needs a cite behind it.
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-effectiveness.html
that link is pretty harsh on AA but there are a lot of doubts about AA’s effectiveness in any haul.

The Shick Shadel 12 page brochure says "Two year continuing care plan includes support group involvement that may include AA, NA, CA, a variety of other sober support resources or Shick Shadel Continuing Care Groups. (http://schickshadel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Schick-Shadel-Brochure.pdf)

So are they using 12 step programs or not? Why do thy lie and say they don’t use 12 step programs?

While I think whatever works is great for who it works for, aversion therapy has a long history of short term success. But I’m sure they make a lot of money doing it.

Rather than making a joke about brains or trioxin, I’ll just note that this appears to be the most-zombified thread I’ve ever seen.

And I’ll also endorse Sgt. Detritus’s One-Step Program for ending substance dependency. Take one wrong step, and a five-ton troll smashes you in the face.

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