# Schumer Urges Filibuster to Block Gorsuch Confirmation **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 23, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845 "2017-03-23T16:45:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/161 "2017-03-29T19:18:27Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > For the same reason 17 year-olds can’t vote. I asked for the reason, not a list of other consequences you think that reason might entail. What is the reason? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/162 "2017-03-29T19:21:00Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Does the idea of equal protection mandate that nine year olds can marry? > > Why not? Because a 9 year old is not an adult, cannot make adult decisions, and putting her(or him) in that situation would almost inevitably be child abuse. How is that in any way comparable to SSM? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/163 "2017-03-29T19:25:23Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I asked for the reason, not a list of other consequences you think that reason might entail. > > What is the reason? It’s the same reason a 10 year-old can’t get a driver’s license. C’mon, connect the dot. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/164 "2017-03-29T19:57:27Z")
I may be wrong but Bricker is asking if there is something in the 14th amendment that allows for ageism? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/165 "2017-03-29T20:04:38Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > How do you determine the length of the Emperor’s nose? Measuring the nose would be best, of course, but if you cannot, should you interview everyone, and take the average of their guesses? Or should you interview people close to the man who see him every day? Probably the former. People who are close to someone will become accustomed to his face and are more likely to see it in a more positive light than someone who is not. An average of their guesses, I would suspect, would be closer to the population average than to the real person. A large enough group of strangers, though, will have the benefit of the [wisdom of the crowd](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_of_the_crowd), without the rose-tinted spectacles. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/166 "2017-03-29T20:04:41Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Because a 9 year old is not an adult, cannot make adult decisions, and putting her(or him) in that situation would almost inevitably be child abuse. > > How is that in any way comparable to SSM? I am asking about the principle. What is the principle in the Constitution that allows the government to forbid nine year olds from marrying? Is it adulthood? Where in the Constitution does it say that equal protection applies to adults, but only adults? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/167 "2017-03-29T20:06:20Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > It’s the same reason a 10 year-old can’t get a driver’s license. > > C’mon, connect the dot. I have no idea. Why can’t you just say it, instead of exhorting me to connect the dots? Perhaps my dots are flawed. I wish to understand what you say the dots are. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/168 "2017-03-29T20:07:44Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I keep waiting for the Dems to **push someone into lying about Gorsuch sexually harassing her** , or forging some documents and sending them to CBS. Bolding mine. I don’t really have anything else to add to that, I just feel like it ought to be highlighted, for the sake of the people who missed it on the first go around. _Wow_. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/169 "2017-03-29T20:08:26Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I am asking about the principle. What is the principle in the Constitution that allows the government to forbid nine year olds from marrying? > > Is it adulthood? Where in the Constitution does it say that equal protection applies to adults, but only adults? Are activist judges to blame for the current acceptance of ageism? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/170 "2017-03-29T20:09:38Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Bolding mine. > > I don’t really have anything else to add to that, I just feel like it ought to be highlighted, for the sake of the people who missed it on the first go around. > > _Wow_. That was a feature of the Thomas confirmation hearings, as I see it. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/171 "2017-03-29T20:11:01Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I have no idea. Why can’t you just say it, instead of exhorting me to connect the dots? Perhaps my dots are flawed. I wish to understand what you say the dots are. Can you see _any_ relevant differences between a person’s sex and a person’s age when it comes to the rights and privileges they may have? Any at all? If not, I don’t think I want you watching children, lest you do something like try to give them alcohol. ---
**Author:** ![Richbor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Richbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richbor)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/172 "2017-03-29T20:11:12Z")
Their into opposition no matter what. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/173 "2017-03-29T20:12:16Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Are judicial activists to blame for the current acceptance of ageism? > 🙂 Irrelevant to my current line of inquiry. The claim was: > [@](#): > > The “law” defining marriage was found to contravene the idea of equal protection, regardless of whether or not marriage was mentioned in the 14th. You can’t go around defining certain people as second-class citizens and then hide behind “Well, that’s the way the word has always been defined!” It’s wrong, it’s unfair, and nothing personal, but it’s cowardly. I want to understand the “idea” of equal protection, and who gets to define it, and on what they are permitted to base their understanding. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/174 "2017-03-29T20:13:17Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Can you see _any_ relevant differences between a person’s sex and a person’s age when it comes to the rights and privileges they may have? Any at all? If not, I don’t think I want you watching children, lest you do something like try to give them alcohol. My idea of “relevant” is not yours. So why can’t you tell me what you believe the answer is, and where you learned it. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/175 "2017-03-29T20:13:38Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > That was a feature of the Thomas confirmation hearings, as I see it. I guess I missed the part where it was confirmed that Anita Hill lied. But, you know, what do I know? It’s just the word of a woman against the word of a man on the subject of sexual assault. Bitches lie all the time about that shit, am I right? It’s _way_ more likely that someone get falsely accused of rape than commit rape. Just like all those shallow, fame-seeking sluts who tried to sue our great and powerful leader and _am I laying it on thick enough to successfully display my sarcasm and disdain for this line of reasoning yet?!_ ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/176 "2017-03-29T20:16:52Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > My idea of “relevant” is not yours. So why can’t you tell me what you believe the answer is, and where you learned it. Yeah, no, I’m sorry. If you can’t figure this one out, even after the big-ass hint I gave you (why is it okay for me to drink alcohol but not a 5-year-old?) I’m not helping you. You’re on your own. Sorry buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/177 "2017-03-29T20:20:43Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I guess I missed the part where it was confirmed that Anita Hill lied. But, you know, what do I know? It’s just the word of a woman against the word of a man on the subject of sexual assault. Bitches lie all the time about that shit, am I right? It’s _way_ more likely that someone get falsely accused of rape than commit rape. Just like all those shallow, fame-seeking sluts who tried to sue our great and powerful leader and _am I laying it on thick enough to successfully display my sarcasm and disdain for this line of reasoning yet?!_ Did Juanita Broaderick lie? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/178 "2017-03-29T20:22:03Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Did Juanita Broaderick lie? When come back, please bring question of even _remote_ relevance. I’m not interested in yet another “liberal hypocrisy trap”. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/179 "2017-03-29T20:22:22Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Yeah, no, I’m sorry. If you can’t figure this one out, even after the big-ass hint I gave you (why is it okay for me to drink alcohol but not a 5-year-old?) I’m not helping you. You’re on your own. Sorry buddy. You seem to be hinting that age is somehow involved. But where is marriage age listed in the Constitution? No, that can’t be it. Must be just a rule you made up because you thought that’s how things should be done. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845/180 "2017-03-29T20:24:06Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > When come back, please bring question of even _remote_ relevance. I’m not interested in yet another “liberal hypocrisy trap”. Your prior post seemed to hint that you thought it was wrong to question a woman’s accusation of rape. But since you’re reluctant to do more than hint at your underlying arguments, I can’t really tell. You said: > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I guess I missed the part where it was confirmed that Anita Hill lied. But, you know, what do I know? It’s just the word of a woman against the word of a man on the subject of sexual assault. Bitches lie all the time about that shit, am I right? It’s _way_ more likely that someone get falsely accused of rape than commit rape. Just like all those shallow, fame-seeking sluts who tried to sue our great and powerful leader and _am I laying it on thick enough to successfully display my sarcasm and disdain for this line of reasoning yet?!_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schumer-urges-filibuster-to-block-gorsuch-confirmation/782845.md?page=10)