# Schwarzenneger veteos marriage bill **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 30, 2005, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124 "2005-09-30T01:06:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/1 "2005-09-30T01:06:21Z")
He’s already gotten a number of "fuck you"s for saying he’d veto the bill, but he gets another one now that he’s actually [done it](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050929/pl_nm/rights_california_gaymarriage_dc). Fuck you, Arnie. Fuck you sideways with a chainsaw while you dangle from a rusty meathook. Take your semi-literate inability to understand not only basic fairness and decency, but fucking high school civics, fold it five ways and cram it up your steroid-pumped ass. People of California, could you do us a favor? Next election, could you vote for someone who has a fucking clue in his head how to govern, and not just vote for the movie star? ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/2 "2005-09-30T01:12:04Z")
Uh, you know we’re talking about California, right? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/3 "2005-09-30T01:12:25Z")
He’ll be back!! ---
**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/4 "2005-09-30T01:21:42Z")
Don’t blame me … I voted for Gary Coleman. Well, not really but I’ve always wanted to say that. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/5 "2005-09-30T01:24:23Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > People of California, could you do us a favor? Next election, could you vote for someone who has a fucking clue in his head how to govern, and not just vote for the movie star? Like there was one running. Remember, we were in a “anybody but Grey Davis” mood. I promise, we’ll do better next time. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/6 "2005-09-30T01:26:21Z")
I seriously doubt Arnie will be back. Buck up! Hopefully they run someone worthwhile this time. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/7 "2005-09-30T01:39:49Z")
IIRC, with the exception of a disasterous stint by Gray Davis, California has had a long run of conservative Republican governors in the last 20 years. Meaning Arnie will be gone, but you might not like his replacement any better. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/8 "2005-09-30T01:43:26Z")
And they seriously want this jerk to run for President? No, Ahnold, \*\*we’ll \*\*be back. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/9 "2005-09-30T01:43:27Z")
I hear Autrians are considered kinda’ like the backwoods hicks of Europe. If so, can I make a [del]white trash[/del] Hillbilly joke? But really, I knew this would happen, but I still, that didn’t mean that he had to prove me right. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/10 "2005-09-30T01:48:09Z")
I actually voted for him. I believed it when he put on his happy face, made nice sounding promises and pandered to us for our votes. If he runs again, I will vote to terminate him. Hasta la vista baby. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/11 "2005-09-30T01:53:15Z")
I’m disgusted about it because he sent it back to the courts. Haven’t we had enough of this nonsense in the courts? This was an opportunity to cement it into law. There would be no cries of judicial activism, it would be done, once and for all. But nooooo, that would make too much sense. Instead we have to have some judges decide it. Great. Thanks, Arnie. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/12 "2005-09-30T02:08:13Z")
Maybe I don’t understand what he’s saying, but it sounds to me like he’s trying to reject responsibility for the decision by claiming that the issue is spelled out in the constitution. From the article mentioned in the original post: > [@](#): > > “This bill simply adds confusion to a constitutional issue,” Schwarzenegger wrote. “If the ban of same-sex marriage is unconstitutional, this bill is not necessary. If the ban is constitutional, this bill is ineffective.” I take issue with the last sentence. “If the ban is constitutional” would mean to me “if the constitution would allow you to ban gay marriages”, not “if the constitution forbids gay marriages.” It would be very possible that the constitution doesn’t state a preference either way, and that the decision could properly be left up to the state legislators. Just because the constitution _allows_ a state to ban gay marriages doesn’t necessarily mean that the constitution says you _must_ ban gay marriages. Or am I all wet? ---
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/13 "2005-09-30T02:09:47Z")
I’m unfamiliar with the way the law process works. Is there a certain amount of time that has to pass now before they can bring this bill up again now that it’s been vetoed? Can’t they just pass the bill again the second Arnie leaves office at the end of his term? Or is it more complicated than that? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/14 "2005-09-30T02:15:12Z")
> [@Soapbox Monkey](#): > > I’m unfamiliar with the way the law process works. Is there a certain amount of time that has to pass now before they can bring this bill up again now that it’s been vetoed? Can’t they just pass the bill again the second Arnie leaves office at the end of his term? Or is it more complicated than that? It’s complicated, and it’s tied into the initiative system we have here. Maybe someone can explain it to you. I can’t, I still don’t understand it myself. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/15 "2005-09-30T02:24:34Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > People of California, could you do us a favor? Next election, could you vote for someone who has a fucking clue in his head how to govern, and not just vote for the movie star? We might not have a choice – looks like [Warren Beatty is considering challenging](http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=3888169&nav=5D7lBwNp) The Fuckinator next election. Or at least he “hasn’t ruled it out.” Ugh. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/16 "2005-09-30T02:31:31Z")
I’m not going to vote for him again. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/17 "2005-09-30T02:39:29Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > I’m not going to vote for him again. I didn’t vote for his bitch ass the first time. I’ve always wondered, for those that did: why? I’m not trying to be glib, but what, specifically, in his unspeakably retarded campaign spoke to you and made you pull that particular lever (or, more accurately, push that particular button)? Or was it just that there was basically no serious high-visibility competition? And why does this decision (gay marriage) surprise you at all? ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/18 "2005-09-30T02:40:15Z")
His acting abilities aside, I have long admired Arnold Schwarzenegger for the way he literally made a place in the world for himself with his hard work, focus and dedication. I really thought he would have had enough political sense to at least be gay tolerant in his policies, but it sounds like he has skewed solidly to right wing edges in his public policies. It’s a bit disappointing. I expected more from him. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/19 "2005-09-30T02:41:54Z")
So Schwarzenegger ran on an “I’m a moderate, gay-friendly Republican” but caved on it? Gasp. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124/20 "2005-09-30T02:43:12Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > I didn’t vote for his bitch ass the first time. I’ve always wondered, for those that did: why? I’m not trying to be glib, but what, specifically, in his unspeakably retarded campaign spoke to you and made you pull that particular lever (or, more accurately, push that particular button)? Or was it just that there was basically no serious high-visibility competition? And why does this decision (gay marriage) surprise you at all? I never voted for him either, and I’m not surprised by what he’s done. And he wants to run again, calling it “the sequel.” Well…I doubt very much there’s going to be a Part Two. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/schwarzenneger-veteos-marriage-bill/324124.md?page=2)