# Sci-fi ships to scale

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 17, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346 "2011-07-17T13:19:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/1 "2011-07-17T13:19:40Z")

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I’m sure no one here will find [this](http://bit.ly/ory4Yd)of interest, but you might know someone who would.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/2 "2011-07-17T13:32:46Z")

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You can navigate the site better from the [main page](http://www.merzo.net/index.html).

I didn’t know that the ID4 mothership dwarfs even the second death star!

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/3 "2011-07-17T13:35:51Z")

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Scroll about halfway down to see the Star Destroyer. Remember how huge it was in the opening scene of _Star Wars_? Now look how big it is. Then scroll up and check out the EVE Online ships.

EVE Online is clearly superior to The Old Republic.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/4 "2011-07-17T14:17:46Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> I’m sure no one here will find [this](http://bit.ly/ory4Yd)of interest, but you might know someone who would.

I’ve had that in my bookmarks for years.

One of the few sites that really needs IE as you can drag the ships around the page to make more direct comparisons. Can’t do that in Firefox.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/5 "2011-07-17T14:54:31Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> Scroll about halfway down to see the Star Destroyer. Remember how huge it was in the opening scene of _Star Wars_? Now look how big it is. Then scroll up and check out the EVE Online ships.
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> EVE Online is clearly superior to The Old Republic.

Don’t be too proud of this technological terror you’ve constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/6 "2011-07-17T16:34:40Z")

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That’s pretty cool.

It’s too bad that they didn’t include ships from Iain M. Banks’ Culture, as the description of a General Systems Vehicle makes it sound fairly impressive, but I don’t suppose there are any agreed-upon graphic designs.

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**Author:** ![Lobelia\_Overhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@Lobelia\_Overhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobelia_Overhill)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/7 "2011-07-17T18:40:54Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> I’m sure no one here will find [this](http://bit.ly/ory4Yd)of interest, but you might know someone who would.

Well I found it interesting…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/8 "2011-07-18T03:29:55Z")

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Yeah, I’d seen that before. Highly speculative, but a lot of fun.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/9 "2011-07-18T04:07:49Z")

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I’ve said that I’d like to see a similar website but with famous paintings so you could see their differences in their size. We tend to think of all paintings as being approximately the same size because we’re used to seeing them reproduced on a book page. But in reality [Guernica](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PicassoGuernica.jpg) is over sixty times bigger than the [Mona Lisa](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mona_Lisa,_by_Leonardo_da_Vinci,_from_C2RMF_retouched.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/10 "2011-07-18T11:35:15Z")

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I first visited that site, jeez, almost 10 years ago by way of Martin Sargent’s mentioning of it on **The Screen Savers**. God I miss that show…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/11 "2011-07-18T11:51:10Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> Scroll about halfway down to see the Star Destroyer. Remember how huge it was in the opening scene of _Star Wars_? Now look how big it is. Then scroll up and check out the EVE Online ships.

And yet the Super Star Destroyer is shown as being just as massive, which just _can’t_ be right.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/12 "2011-07-18T13:39:07Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> And yet the Super Star Destroyer is shown as being just as massive, which just _can’t_ be right.

The Super Star Destroyer might be long, but the EVE ships are thick. And everyone that’s in the know knows that thickness is what really matters.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/13 "2011-07-18T14:00:01Z")

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When all’s said and done, I’d still rather have a TARDIS. It’s the size on the \*inside \*that matters.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/14 "2011-07-18T14:48:21Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> It’s too bad that they didn’t include ships from Iain M. Banks’ Culture, as the description of a General Systems Vehicle makes it sound fairly impressive, but I don’t suppose there are any agreed-upon graphic designs.

True, but even the System class GSVs are only supposed to be around 200km in each dimension. Even if one was imaged to be a cube (what with the fields and all), it would only be a bit bigger than the 2nd Death Star. And these are among the largest ships among Involved species in the Culture version of the Milky Way (though, of course, they have much larger habitats and such).

Of course, that’s still ridiculously large.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/15 "2011-07-18T15:24:03Z")

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> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#):
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> You can navigate the site better from the [main page](http://www.merzo.net/index.html).
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> I didn’t know that the ID4 mothership dwarfs even the second death star!

I’m probably just an idiot, but I see neither the ID4 ship OR the Death Star…

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/16 "2011-07-18T15:38:09Z")

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Nevermind…found em.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/17 "2011-07-18T15:47:03Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> I’m probably just an idiot, but I see neither the ID4 ship OR the Death Star…

Click on the “-2000x” tab.

ID4 mothership is almost at the bottom, listed as 800km in size. The Death Star mk1 is two ships below that, at 160km across.

The city destroyers of Independence Day are smaller, at 24km. (Seen on the “-100x” tab.)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/18 "2011-07-18T19:40:58Z")

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I bet you’ll all like this, too: [Comparative planetary and stellar sizes](http://www.co-intelligence.org/newsletter/comparisons.html)

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/19 "2011-07-18T20:05:20Z")

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Where’s Rama?

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sci-fi-ships-to-scale/589346/20 "2011-07-18T20:13:45Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Where’s Rama?

-2000x tab

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